Snape's Death in DH Part 2 Movie
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I'm not sure if it's okay for me to post about the movie as I know this group seems to be mostly about the book. I actually already knew about this change a while back and have discussed it already but not in this group, and now it's sort of been made official.
I wanted to share simply because I wondered what some of you thought. Personally it sounds like a weird change. I am not as picky on the location but then again, it sounds like from what I read there is something wonkey going on with how the death actually happens to. Although it's a pretty hard to understand explaination but anyway I've copy and pasted the info from the mugglenet page below. And if we're not supposed to post movie stuff then please let me know, I just thought it was a unusual change and wondered what everyone thought about it.
'Harry Potter' Art Director reveals new death scene for Snape in 'Deathly Hallows - Part 2'
Andrew Ackland-Snow, the art director for the Harry Potter franchise, has revealed that Severus Snape will have a death scene in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 which is different from what's found in the book.
SPOILER WARNING
"We wanted to change a bit where Snape dies. In the book, he dies on the Shrieking Shack, and we wanted to get him out from, not a conventional interior, but from that kind of box, to do it in a more dramatic atmosphere. We asked J.K. if she agreed for that to happen in there, because we hadn't really seen it before. We made a crystal house, and you can see what happens in the boat house from there - Are you listening Harry? -, but also the school is in flames...and she loved it. Besides, it's a very romantic place to die. Snape dies in a extremely good way, I gotta say."
You may remember set designer Stuart Craig commented on Snape's death scene last February, commenting: "The last time I cried was a few days ago when we filmed the death of Alan Rickman's character, Snape. It's quite difficult to cry in rushes -- where we watch the previous day's work -- but he is an extraordinary actor and he dies an extremely good death."
I'm not sure if it's okay for me to post about the movie as I know this group seems to be mostly about the book. I actually already knew about this change a while back and have discussed it already but not in this group, and now it's sort of been made official.
I wanted to share simply because I wondered what some of you thought. Personally it sounds like a weird change. I am not as picky on the location but then again, it sounds like from what I read there is something wonkey going on with how the death actually happens to. Although it's a pretty hard to understand explaination but anyway I've copy and pasted the info from the mugglenet page below. And if we're not supposed to post movie stuff then please let me know, I just thought it was a unusual change and wondered what everyone thought about it.
'Harry Potter' Art Director reveals new death scene for Snape in 'Deathly Hallows - Part 2'
Andrew Ackland-Snow, the art director for the Harry Potter franchise, has revealed that Severus Snape will have a death scene in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 which is different from what's found in the book.
SPOILER WARNING
"We wanted to change a bit where Snape dies. In the book, he dies on the Shrieking Shack, and we wanted to get him out from, not a conventional interior, but from that kind of box, to do it in a more dramatic atmosphere. We asked J.K. if she agreed for that to happen in there, because we hadn't really seen it before. We made a crystal house, and you can see what happens in the boat house from there - Are you listening Harry? -, but also the school is in flames...and she loved it. Besides, it's a very romantic place to die. Snape dies in a extremely good way, I gotta say."
You may remember set designer Stuart Craig commented on Snape's death scene last February, commenting: "The last time I cried was a few days ago when we filmed the death of Alan Rickman's character, Snape. It's quite difficult to cry in rushes -- where we watch the previous day's work -- but he is an extraordinary actor and he dies an extremely good death."
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Date: 2011-01-18 11:42 pm (UTC)But I think we've agreed in the past that the movies sort of developed into an alternate universe which somewhat parallels the books, but which differ in some important, and sometimes major, aspects.
Now I really disliked the DH book; I'd actually hoped that for once the director and screenwriter would make major changes, specifically severely limiting the Endless Camping Trip, and instead actually show what occurs at Hogwarts and elsewhere in the Wizarding World while The Trio is out hunting horcrii...
But from what I've heard, the camping trip is basically retained in the movie with little change. And from what I've seen of trailers and clips of scenes that are obviously from Part 2, it looks like they've made some really major deviations from canon...
So I don't know what to expect with Snape's death scene; Rowling making the Shrieking Shack Voldemort's command center was sort of wierd, but I guess she felt she needed to place it/him away from the main battlefield...
Changing it to the boathouse is a complete reversal of that, it puts Voldie right AT where the battle is taking place, I just don't see Voldie risking his own neck in that manner.
And we never saw the boathouse in the movies before, except in the distance for a few seconds when the First Years arrive at Hogwarts. In canon there is no boathouse, IIRC, the boats go into a cave I believe...
So they wanted to give Rickman a sexy, romantic setting in which to die...so be it. I'm pretty much prepared to be disappointed by the movie as a whole, so I'm not going to be surprised if the death scene disappoints me.
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Date: 2011-01-19 12:46 am (UTC)I don't know what I feel about it. I get the idea, the concept but I really don't know how changing the setting makes how Snape dies more romantic. Maybe it's just me being a Snape fan and that I didn't like how he died anyway.
But the dude says: Besides, it's a very romantic place to die. Snape dies in a extremely good way, I gotta say."
What is really romantic about Snape's death. Okay, so I'll give that in the Prince's Tale we learn about his loyalty to Lily but all that stuff comes after his death.
To me there shouldn't be any kind of romantic feel to his death. OR that it's a extremely good way to die? really? I mean seriously does anyone want to die the way Snape died.
His death at least in book seems like a frightening, sad, pathetic, dark, terrifying way to die. Being attacked by a giant snake and bleeding to death with nobody to help you and you are all alone till 'the hero' shows up. I mean, It doesn't seem like you'd want to visually portray that as 'romatic' and I don't know about anyone else but I don't see that as a good way to die or that it should be portayed that way.
Plus at that point we're not supposed to be thinking Snape is good right? At that point we know nothing.
Anyway, I could say more but my train of thought is just stuck on whats good about how Snape dies or how it can be viewed romantically at the moment he is dieing =p
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Date: 2011-01-19 01:55 am (UTC)It's not the definition of "romantic" meaning snogging a Significant Other, it's the definition meaning a place that is exciting and/or adventurous and/or mysterious...
I mean seriously does anyone want to die the way Snape died.
Cleopatra? Shakespeare made it work. :-)
(altho recent historical discoveries tend to put the She-Killed-Herself-With-An-Asp story into question)
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Date: 2011-01-19 10:21 am (UTC)And yeah, I don't even recall a boathouse ever existing, so that's out of left field there. O.o
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Date: 2011-01-19 08:21 pm (UTC)Eliminating Lily from the Snape's Worst Memory scene for one; basically ALL of HBP, namely focusing on teen romance/angst and eliminating most of the Tom Riddle backstory, and actually practically eliminating the HBP himself from the story that has his name in it. Also that Burrow scene that made no sense.
If I wasn't so tired from shoveling slush, I'm sure I'd remember a few others...
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Date: 2011-01-20 03:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-20 04:25 pm (UTC)Well, maybe that's a *slight* exaggeration. I was furious, though. WTF were they smoking?
(Then again I'm generally unhappy with the filmmakers' portrayal of Snape, especially the casual violence in the earlier movies. The one change thus far that I liked was the moment on the top of the Tower where he shushes Harry: totally not canon, but for me it hit precisely the right note about how their relationship changes with DD's death. At that point Harry 'hates' him, but still *trusts* him on some level, and that trust is exactly what Severus is about to sacrifice when he kills DD. I'll watch that bit of HBP again, but not the rest of the tripe. NOT ONE DADA LESSON? They cut his speech!)
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Date: 2011-01-19 08:25 pm (UTC)And yeah, I don't even recall a boathouse ever existing, so that's out of left field there. O.o
It's barely noticeable in the first movie when the First Years are arriving at Hogwarts by boat. But it apparently plays a big part in a HP video game that I saw online somewhere when this whole change of Snape's death scene first broke...and it seems the designers for the movie have based the movie boathouse on the video boathouse.
But I still don't understand how they're going to be able to have The Trio be able to eavesdrop on Snape and Voldemort without being seen...
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Date: 2011-01-20 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-20 04:54 pm (UTC)Yet by DH we're told that just two of them can barely fit under the cloak, and that their feet still show. So unless The Trio get, uh, very chummy by crouching and huddling under the cloak together, I don't see how that can work, either...especially doesn't explain how they can approach the boathouse with all its windows and not be seen.