Snape's Death in DH Part 2 Movie

[karentheunicorn.livejournal.com]

This is a movie spoiler so don't read it if you don't want to be either surprised or disappointed.


I'm not sure if it's okay for me to post about the movie as I know this group seems to be mostly about the book. I actually already knew about this change a while back and have discussed it already but not in this group, and now it's sort of been made official.

I wanted to share simply because I wondered what some of you thought. Personally it sounds like a weird change. I am not as picky on the location but then again, it sounds like from what I read there is something wonkey going on with how the death actually happens to. Although it's a pretty hard to understand explaination but anyway I've copy and pasted the info from the mugglenet page below. And if we're not supposed to post movie stuff then please let me know, I just thought it was a unusual change and wondered what everyone thought about it.



'Harry Potter' Art Director reveals new death scene for Snape in 'Deathly Hallows - Part 2'
Andrew Ackland-Snow, the art director for the Harry Potter franchise, has revealed that Severus Snape will have a death scene in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 which is different from what's found in the book.

SPOILER WARNING

"We wanted to change a bit where Snape dies. In the book, he dies on the Shrieking Shack, and we wanted to get him out from, not a conventional interior, but from that kind of box, to do it in a more dramatic atmosphere. We asked J.K. if she agreed for that to happen in there, because we hadn't really seen it before. We made a crystal house, and you can see what happens in the boat house from there - Are you listening Harry? -, but also the school is in flames...and she loved it. Besides, it's a very romantic place to die. Snape dies in a extremely good way, I gotta say."

You may remember set designer Stuart Craig commented on Snape's death scene last February, commenting: "The last time I cried was a few days ago when we filmed the death of Alan Rickman's character, Snape. It's quite difficult to cry in rushes -- where we watch the previous day's work -- but he is an extraordinary actor and he dies an extremely good death."

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[madderbrad.livejournal.com]

Now's their big chance to fix up one of the most colossal flaws of Rowling's horrible amateurish writing in DH.

All throughout the book Voldemort uses the Killing Curse exclusively to kill everyone who annoys him. We see it all through the newsflashes that Harry receives from the Dark Lord Mental Broadcast Network. Gregovitch's housekeeper and children - a flash of green light. Gregorvitch - a flash of green light. Grindlewald - a flash of green light. Goblins and Death Eaters bringing bad news - flashes of green light.

Then it's time to kill Snape. A flash of gree--

Oh. No. Rowing needs Snape to linger in his death, so Harry can receive the memories.

So - for no reason at all - Voldemort doesn't cast a Killing Curse. Instead he sics Nagini onto Snape.

Which is doubly stupid, because Voldemort is killing Snape to assert his ownership of the Elder Wand. In this one case where it is vital that Voldemort demonstrate his mastery of the wand by directly defeating the previous owner ...

... he instead delegates the murder to another, Nagini. Preposterous.

And finally, of course, Rowling commits one of the most cliched and ridiculous mistakes right out of the "Evil Overlord's Manual" ... she has the dark lord abandon the scene while Snape is still alive, so Harry can conveniently pop out and have a leisurely chat.

Horrible, horrible writing, with Voldemort making these three mistakes for no stated reason; it's simply because Rowling needed it to be so to prop up her amateur story. But it's all the worse because it's the complete stark opposite to Voldemort's rampage of AK curses right up to that point.

Anyway, as they did for Hedwig's death and the "trademark spell" silliness, I hope the movie people manage to make another canon correction in this instance.

(Sadly, there were so many DH flaws and errors the movie would be totally unrecognisable if they committed to fixing all of the mistakes ...)

[karentheunicorn.livejournal.com]

most cliched and ridiculous mistakes right out of the "Evil Overlord's Manual"

LOL! Funny. And here the movie people say a boat house is a romantic place to die.

Yea, I always feel romantic about dieing in a boat house!

I guess Voldie is gonna after killing Severus, jump on his jetski and speed off. Or maybe he confiscated the malfoy yacht.

[karentheunicorn.livejournal.com]

And I didn't finish my comment before posting, bad me. Thats what I get for doing 2-3 things at once.

Oh. No. Rowing needs Snape to linger in his death, so Harry can receive the memories.

Yes to this. The thing is, it's another example of Harry being handed info without working for it. And again, JKR kills an important character in a disappointing way JUST so she can hand the lead hero the info he needs.

Me, I wanted some kinda dialogue between Harry/Snape, something. I didn't want huggy, touchy feeling lets make up and be best friends...I just wanted something other than Harry being handed the info he needed without much effort on his part.

And Snape had to die just to impart to Harry, he had to go do a death mission on himself.

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

Yea, I always feel romantic about dieing in a boat house!

More romantic than dying in a sewer... ;-)


I guess Voldie is gonna after killing Severus, jump on his jetski and speed off. Or maybe he confiscated the malfoy yacht.

Naw, he's got a submarine! He parks it at the Octopus's Garden, an upscale condo for wizards that has a huge fountain/pool system... :-o

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

Now's their big chance to fix up one of the most colossal flaws of Rowling's horrible amateurish writing in DH.

I've noticed that in everything I've read about the movie death scene, no one's actually come out and said "When Nagini bites Snape"...

So perhaps they will give Snape a different manner of death.

Personally, I think Rowling could have had a duel between Voldie and Snape; there are plenty of high places in and around Hogwarts, Snape could have had a misstep avoiding Voldie's killing curse, and fallen to his death.

This would have had the benefit of affording a type of symmetry with Dumbledore's death, and Snape could have lingered long enough to dispense his memories to Harry.

[madderbrad.livejournal.com]

Sounds good to me! Much more credible than Rowling's I'll-write-it-this-way-because-it's-convenient-and-I-can't-think-of-a-plausible-reason approach.

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

You know what, I totally agree with you on the crappy writing- but this the ONE case where I'm thankful for it. Because it means there is still room for my head canon to be plausible. If he'd been AK'd, he's dead and gone, there's little-to-no room to fix that. But a snake bite? On a Potions genius like Snape? Well, there's always a chance he might've taken an antidote or something... (none of the trio bother to take a pulse, they don't know he's dead, just that his eyes are blank- which, er, they were so blank and lifeless that Harry was surprised when he spoke a few minutes earlier, so that's not conclusive!)

So yeah, I'm hoping this ambiguous (to a fan of the character! Obv everyone else is happy for him to die *wibbles*) death remains.

[madderbrad.livejournal.com]

Yes, I've seen that loophole exploited a couple of times. Long live fan fiction!

But, while you and the fanfic authors are profiting from Rowling's lousy writing, that doesn't affect in the slightest that it is lousy. You're just looting the premises after the walls have crumbled. :-)