[identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
I've argued before that Dumbledore knew from the start that Harry had become Tom's Horcrux.

But, if he were as smart as he thought he were, he should have realized that that fact alone proved that Riddle had others (or some other means of avoiding death when his body was destroyed, and Horcruces do seem to be the only known means).

He deduced that Riddle had planned to manufacture a Horcrux from the baby's death, right? Not either of the parents' deaths.

Therefore, the death that created the soul-fragment that landed in Harry, was Riddle's own from that reflected AK.

If he hadn't already been anchored to life by another Horcrux somewhere, he should have merely died.

So Dumbledore ought to have started looking for another Horcrux in 1981....

Re: Horcrux making

Date: 2011-02-06 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com
I further postulate that in a Horcrux creation that goes as it's supposed to, the fragment is caught in the artifact prepared for it as it attempts to rejoin the Prime. Since the Prime is still alive it is not drawn through the Veil, but attempts to rejoin the rest of the bundle.

It's up to the Prime to prevent this. IN Harry's case, Tom had lost control of the spell and was in no position to do this, and the fragment no longer had an embodied Prime to orient on. So it stayed where it was.

Re: Horcrux making

Date: 2011-02-06 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com
I agree that Myrtle's account of her death does not include possession, but she *did* come bouncing out of that stall to tell the boy in the girl's bathroom off rather promptly.

If we postulate that Myrtle's death was *planned* as a base for a Horcrux creation, then Tom would have known she was there, and had an artifact (I believe the Ring) prepared to catch the fragment in with him. He entered the room, called his instrument and grabbed possession as soon as she apppeared. He didn't need to hold onto her any longer than it took for the Basilisk to look her in the eye, but she probably wouldn't have been able to put up much of a fight even if it had taken longer.

Possession does not seem to require eye contact. He got hold of Harry in the Artium without being in Harry's line of sight.

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