Questions regarding the Harrycrux

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

“While the magical container is still intact, the bit of soul inside it can flit in and out of someone if they get too close to the object. I don’t mean holding it for too long…. I mean close emotionally…. You’re in trouble if you get too fond of or dependent on the Horcrux.”

(Hermione regurgitating Dumbledore’s books, DH p. 103)

So why were Hermione, and Ron, and Hagrid, and Mrs. Weasley, never “in trouble”?

Why was the Harrycrux not subject to that particular effect?

And how did Dumbledore know it wouldn’t be?


In theory, anyone close to Harry emotionally ought to have been vulnerable to possession by Tom Riddle.

But in canon this didn’t ever happen.

And, presumably, the Twinkly One expected this not to happen.

Otherwise, letting Harry wander among Hogwarts students making friends was the utter height of irresponsibility. (Okay, comparable to the headmaster’s other heights of irresponsibility, but still….)

I tried to float a theory on my own lj that Dumbles HAD expected that people who loved Harry might be possessed by his Horcrux, had therefore arranged magically to reinforce Harry’s canon early (pre-Hogwarts) friendlessness, and had further arranged that Harry’s first friends in the WW be disposable Dumbles-followers (Hagrid, the youngest Weasley scion). I’d even suggested that the events of CoS seemed at first to Dumbles as indications that the soul-fragment inside Harry had flitted out to possess one of the Weasleys, after Harry spent much of the summer there.

But that theory was shot down.

So why was the Harrycrux different from every other Horcrux known in this particular crucial respect (non-flittiness of the soul-fragment), and how did Dumbles know it was?

Or did our omniscient headmaster overlook that danger, and just luck out that the Harrycrux happened to be different?

Ol’ “Power of Love,” after all, is himself so lacking in normal emotional affect that it’s credible that it might simply not occur to him that normal people do become fond of each other, and that this emotional state (when Harry is the object) is precisely the condition which, in theory, should allow Tom’s soul-fragment to possess the fond third party.

Comments

[seductivedark.livejournal.com]

There's a teaser to some of that in this article. (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/08/27/1030053057866.html)

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

There's a teaser to some of that in this article.

I don't give a damn how Rowling spends her money; she earned it, she can wallow in a swimming pool filled with Euros, Pound Sterlings, and American greenbacks if that gives her joy, for all I care.

Your article doesn't go into the details of Rowling's antics in Portugal that the site I found did. And the site I found described the thing with her father as him marrying his secretary 3 months after his wife died.

IOW, Rowling's parents were married at the time of her mother's death, but Rowling has so completely eliminated her father from her life that the myth presented a scenario of it just being Jo and her mother (sometimes mentioning Jo's sister) when the mother died. I thought that her parents had divorced when Jo was young, or her father had died, I was flabbergasted to find that he was in the picture at the time of his wife's death.

And no one has been able to prove her father was having an affair; the remarriage was perhaps rather sudden after the death of his wife, but then again his first wife had been sick for many years, he would have been going thru a grieving process for some time before her actual death, and may have felt that death was a blessed release for his wife.

No one except Jo seemed to be surprised, let alone get emotional, over the idea of Mr. Rowling marrying his secretary a few months after the death of his wife. Only Jo seems to have concluded that her father didn't display an adequate quantity, quality, or time of grief.

Somewhat hypocritical for someone who claims to have had only "two good cries" in her life, which she describes as crying for 20 minutes or more, and that one of those times was when her mother died. I guess that she feels that one of the two good cries she allows others should have also been expended on her mother's death.

[seductivedark.livejournal.com]

I don't really care about how anyone, Rowling included, spends their money, either. Most of that article did go on about peripheral stuff. But, it does mention a couple of things (cafe owned by the bro-in-law, so which relation answered, could help w/further search), name of ex-husband (also aid in searching), had college degree but no teaching certificate, names school. Also tells how this site and others, probably the site you found included, sussed all of this out (random mentions during interviews) so, it's possible for someone to comb through old interviews to try and discover the info for themselves.

I wasn't able to find a comprehensive site such as the one you're talking about. Being the very fluid internet, it's possible the page got pulled since the HP phenomenon is winding down, the subscription to the hosting site ran out or the author graduated and no longer had an account on such-and-so .edu server, or the information was reformatted and given a new name.

That's why I said the article I did find was a "teaser." It gives some hints but it doesn't deliver the whole enchilada. If someone has more time or interest, they can use the info on the teaser page to try and hunt down the article you mentioned.

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

But, it does mention a couple of things (cafe owned by the bro-in-law, so which relation answered, could help w/further search), name of ex-husband (also aid in searching),

The site I'm referring to also provided this info, I just didn't spell it out.

Also tells how this site and others, probably the site you found included, sussed all of this out (random mentions during interviews) so, it's possible for someone to comb through old interviews to try and discover the info for themselves.

The site I'm referring to actually quoted people -- many by name -- who know/knew Rowling and witnessed certain things first hand, especially the whole Portugal melodrama.

I wasn't able to find a comprehensive site such as the one you're talking about. Being the very fluid internet, it's possible the page got pulled since the HP phenomenon is winding down, the subscription to the hosting site ran out or the author graduated and no longer had an account on such-and-so .edu server, or the information was reformatted and given a new name.

Well this was barely a month ago that I found it, so I doubt it's disappeared; I found it by specifically doing a Google search on "Jo Rowling father"...but it was a link that was a couple of pages into the results, because as I said the majority of sites with anything on Rowling are fawning fan pieces, and creepily many sound like they were written by the same person (or came from the same press release).

[seductivedark.livejournal.com]

Right. I'm not saying it's the same article. I couldn't find it either. This one is but a pale imitation. However, it is not a fawning fannish swoon.

This article in the Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/jkrowlingharrypotter/The-JK-Rowling-story.2436228.jp) is less fannish, though it has some sympathetic adjectives. Search terms used: Rowling Father marriage Jorge Arantes degree cafe brother-in-law. There are quotes from Nettleship, Arantes and others. I don't know if it would be the same site. It is less critical than the one I linked earlier but, it isn't as fannish as most. In order to increase the liklihood of narrowing down the site you found and lost, use other names from this article and expand on the search terms.

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

This article in the Scotsman is less fannish, though it has some sympathetic adjectives.

That might be the site, it looks familiar. Like I said, I had a wicked migraine the night I found the site I was referring to, the Scotsman site may have been one of a couple of sites I found.

[charlottehywd.livejournal.com]

it's possible the page got pulled since the HP phenomenon is winding down

Slightly off topic, but I wonder if HP is going to be as prevalent in the next few years, or if it will just sort of fade away like a lot of popular books have. I certainly haven't seen as much fuss made about the recent movie.

I'd personally like to see JKR try another genre entirely, perhaps learning from her mistakes, but who knows.

[jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com]

>IOW, Rowling's parents were married at the time of her mother's death, but Rowling has so completely eliminated her father from her life that the myth presented a scenario of it just being Jo and her mother (sometimes mentioning Jo's sister) when the mother died. I thought that her parents had divorced when Jo was young, or her father had died, I was flabbergasted to find that he was in the picture at the time of his wife's death.<

Well, something that I've seen in Real Life, is the tendency for the first child of a family to be pretty much deeded over to the parent of the same sex at birth, and to be "mama's girl" or "daddy's boy" from that time forward. A 2nd child, of either sex, often becomes the other parent's child, inside the family dynamic. It might be enlightening to know whether Rowling's younger sister has a similarly "difficult" relationship with their father. I have never heard as much. But then I wasn't particularly interested, either.

[majorjune.livejournal.com]

It might be enlightening to know whether Rowling's younger sister has a similarly "difficult" relationship with their father. I have never heard as much. But then I wasn't particularly interested, either.

From what I've been able to find, Jo's sister is not estranged from their father. It's unclear how she reacted to her father's remarriage so soon after her mother's death, but it's clear that even if she wasn't happy about it, she didn't have the extreme reaction that Jo had.