Questions regarding the Harrycrux

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“While the magical container is still intact, the bit of soul inside it can flit in and out of someone if they get too close to the object. I don’t mean holding it for too long…. I mean close emotionally…. You’re in trouble if you get too fond of or dependent on the Horcrux.”

(Hermione regurgitating Dumbledore’s books, DH p. 103)

So why were Hermione, and Ron, and Hagrid, and Mrs. Weasley, never “in trouble”?

Why was the Harrycrux not subject to that particular effect?

And how did Dumbledore know it wouldn’t be?


In theory, anyone close to Harry emotionally ought to have been vulnerable to possession by Tom Riddle.

But in canon this didn’t ever happen.

And, presumably, the Twinkly One expected this not to happen.

Otherwise, letting Harry wander among Hogwarts students making friends was the utter height of irresponsibility. (Okay, comparable to the headmaster’s other heights of irresponsibility, but still….)

I tried to float a theory on my own lj that Dumbles HAD expected that people who loved Harry might be possessed by his Horcrux, had therefore arranged magically to reinforce Harry’s canon early (pre-Hogwarts) friendlessness, and had further arranged that Harry’s first friends in the WW be disposable Dumbles-followers (Hagrid, the youngest Weasley scion). I’d even suggested that the events of CoS seemed at first to Dumbles as indications that the soul-fragment inside Harry had flitted out to possess one of the Weasleys, after Harry spent much of the summer there.

But that theory was shot down.

So why was the Harrycrux different from every other Horcrux known in this particular crucial respect (non-flittiness of the soul-fragment), and how did Dumbles know it was?

Or did our omniscient headmaster overlook that danger, and just luck out that the Harrycrux happened to be different?

Ol’ “Power of Love,” after all, is himself so lacking in normal emotional affect that it’s credible that it might simply not occur to him that normal people do become fond of each other, and that this emotional state (when Harry is the object) is precisely the condition which, in theory, should allow Tom’s soul-fragment to possess the fond third party.

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[jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com]

It seems pretty clear from the context that *all* of the videos that Harry got in DHs were inadvertant on Tom's part. I can't think of any reason why he would have wanted Harry to know about any of it. And the broadcasts started up *immediately* after the amazing fighting auto-wand episode, so it seems likely that he had been broadcasting that kind of thing all along, it's just that Harry's reciever hadn't been working, unless Tom had been doing it deliberately.

They were barely dragging Hagrid out of the pond before Harry was watching Tom torturing Olivander. It's like the amazing auto-wand had blown a hole in Lily's protection, and the transmission was now getting through.

Which has one wondering: How much magic was Tom able to do without a wand? Or was he just carrying his own yew wand on him while he was using Lucius's against Harry? Because it's clear that the amazing auto-wand completely demolished Lucius's wand while Tom was flying around like superman.

Is he able to fly without a wand? He suddenly didn't have one. Or not one in his hand.
Is he able to apparate without a wand? We don't know where Ted and Andromeda lived, but I rather doubt that the route was conveniently over Malfoy Manor where Olivander was being held.

About the only vision that is dicy is the flashback to Godric's Hollow, where it is never really clear whether Harry was seeing this through the connection or we had somehow leaped from Harry's head to Tom's without any cause or explanation.

And no, we never were given a satisfactory explanation for the amazing fighting auto-wand. Rowling *needed* that reversal of their connection if she was ever going to manage to get this stretch of the story told at all. So she rammed it in, and did some vague hand-waving via Cosmic!Albus at King's Cross who tied it to the supposition that when Harry had broken contact in the tug of war with Tom back at the end of GoF there had still been a bit of Tom's magic caught in Harry's wand from the connection. No explanation whatsoever on why that bit of magic had remained dormant through the attack in the Atrium, or why it suddenly didn't remain dormant now, or why having a bit of Tom's own magic belch at him while Harry was in proximity would reverse the polarity of the mental connection, anyway.

One can cobble something together, of course. I cobbled a hypothesis that since Tom was using an unfamiliar wand with which to attack Harry this time, he was making an effort to summon up *every* bit of his magic to blast the kid out of the picture with, and was near enough that he called the residue of his magic from the duel in the graveyard as well. If harry hadn't kept tight hold of it, Tom might have gotten the wand off him as well.

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Which has one wondering: How much magic was Tom able to do without a wand? Or was he just carrying his own yew wand on him while he was using Lucius's against Harry? Because it's clear that the amazing auto-wand completely demolished Lucius's wand while Tom was flying around like superman.

He does demand Selwyn's wand immediately after losing Lucius'. I don't know if he needed it to stay up or just to fight some more.