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Am I the only one a little bothered by Dumbledore? Not only with the fact he could end up in the Guinness Book Of World Records for "Most Incompetent Headmaster of All Time" (though I'm sure there's worse. :P), but also because...he just bugs me. I know JKR was trying to write him as the "flawed Yoda", so to speak (and to be fair, he's nowhere near Yoda. XD), but it's also how...preachy he gets. Towards Fudge, for example. You know, in Goblet of Fire, with, "You place too much importance on purity of blood, yadda yadda et cetera et cetera" -- which considering how he treated Tom Riddle and the Slytherins is...slightly hypocritical isn't it? Probably bad writing on JKR's part, though. :/

Anyways, sorry 'bout the rambling. Thoughts?

Current Mood: confused
Current Music: Oldies. :P

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aikaterini.livejournal.com

/Enough also to ignore the anti-racism and anti-classism message in the books to bash Lily Evans for cutting off their friendship when he calls her "mudblood" in public and to her very face./

And these guys love James and Lily so much that they ignore James’ shameless bullying of Snape and Lily’s disloyal and shallow behavior to bash Snape for insulting Lily after she tried not to smile and ignored him while he was being humiliated in public and was trying not to choke.

And “anti-classism?” What do you think James’ disdain of Snape came from, aside from Snape’s desire to go into Slytherin and his interest in the Dark Arts (whatever they are)? We sure never heard of James targeting Lucius or any of Sirius’ cousins.

/However, LOTS of the suffering he did go through was a result of his own actions and choices./

If they’re talking about his suffering as a result of him joining the Death Eaters, then yes, that was a result of his own choices. He did choose to join Voldemort, no question about it. But if they’re talking about him being bullied…no. Just no. Nobody deserves to be bullied. And they can argue that it’s because Snape had dabbled in the Dark Arts all they want, but the problem is that we don’t see any of that in the text. We just hear about it - through the Half-Blood Prince’s book and through Snape’s use of Sectusempra. We don’t see Snape torturing anybody. We don’t see him harassing Muggle-born students. And when Lily unleashes her tirade against him, she only says that it’s his *friends* who are bullying Muggle-born students and using Dark magic. She never says that Snape himself has been doing any of that.

/The really sad part is, if he hadn't pushed Lily away and she'd fallen for him instead of James, he would have succeeded in ''not'' turning out like Tobias./

Uh, guys? I think that Lily pushed *him* away. You know, when she laughed at his humiliation, flounced on him when he snapped back at her, refused to listen to his apology, claimed that he should be grateful to his bully, didn’t care that he almost died as a result of whatever James saved him from, refused to let him explain himself, and then walked out on him.

And I love the implication that the only thing that would keep Snape from being a Death Eater would be if Lily loved him back. Isn’t that the sort of thing that Lily fans accuse Snapefen of doing? Blaming Lily for Snape joining the Death Eaters because of the belief that all a man needs to straighten himself out is the love of a woman? Honestly, I don’t think that Snape would be happier if Lily agreed to date him. We saw how she treated him when they were supposedly best friends. How would she have treated him if they were a couple?

/What Could Have Been: According to Rowling, if Snape had chosen Lily's friendship over the Death Eaters, his life would have turned out completely differently./

Really? His life would have changed completely? Instead of being ignored by his supposed best friend while he was being bullied, he would have been…continuously ignored by his supposed best friend while he was being bullied. Lily had already shown him how much their friendship meant to her. She was *not* a good friend. *She* walked out on *him.* She chose James over their friendship. What was Snape supposed to do after that? How could he have chosen the friendship of someone who no longer wanted anything to do with him, who betrayed him because she fancied his bully? Grovel and let himself be bullied by James again? It was a no-win situation for him.

From:

ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com

WARNING: Long overdue rant. Proceed with caution. XD

I think what kills me the most is when they bitch about ROSE POTTER. Seriously, guys? It's okay to criticize the fic, but calling Rose Potter worse than Voldemort? Ha-DOI! (And by that I mean *Harry's* worse than Voldemort) Carving words on Ron's forehead? Like canon!Harry hasn't Crucioed a defenseless man for spitting on his teacher or smirked at a girl who had the word SNEAK tattooed on her forehead for betraying the Holy Leader? Seriously, he says words similar to Rosy's in the original book; basically, "I hope that leaves a scar." (To be fair, he *threw* the badge at Ron instead of carving it into his head, but you get the picture) No one calls out Rosy on her douchebaggery? Well, no one calls out Harry on his douchebaggery either. He's not a saint, he's not a hero...he's a fraud. He's a posturing child. Unfortunately, I doubt the hms_stfu would get that if I did a little interpretive dance for them. :P

And maybe I'm being oversensitive, but I think they're mostly picking on Rosy because (a) they worship JKR or (b) it's because Rosy's female. I know it's a flimsy excuse, but it really seems to be the case. Boys being aggressive? A-OK. Girls being aggressive -- "get back in the kitchen where you belong, bee-otch!" I mean...I won't deny that ROSE POTTER'S poorly written, but I can't help but feel a sort of Double Standard/sexism when dealing with the fic in question.

Feel free to disagree. :)

From:

aikaterini.livejournal.com

I've never read any of the Rose Potter fanfics; I've only heard about them. I have heard that Rose is extremely vicious and sociopathic, and that she does bully and torment Ron a lot of the time. If all of that is true, then she deserves all of the criticism that she gets. But if people can't see the similarities between Rose's mutilation of Ron and Hermione's disfigurement of Marietta, then I just don't know what to say.

As for their criticism of Rose because she's aggressive (although perhaps aggressive is the wrong word to use, if she is indeed as monstrous as I hear), well...to be fair, HBP!Ginny is very aggressive as well, and I know that a lot of people in this community don't like her. I don't know how much of their hatred for Rose Potter is because of her gender as it is for her personality.

But I will say that one of the reasons why I dislike the term "Mary Sue" (which I've frequently seen Rose Potter labeled with) and the frequent usage of the term is because I feel that female characters tend to be unfairly picked on much more than male characters, be they canon or OCs. So, you may have a point there about Rose's treatment.

From:

ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com

Maybe. :/

I guess it was stuff like "hey look, Harry's name comes after Voldemort in the original sentence of GOF. JKR's a genius!1!" that kind of got my inner stupid alarm blaring. Especially when they try to use it to justify how OMGselfless Harry is. *Bang bang bang*

As for mutilating Marietta vs. mutilating Ron, I think it's mostly...yeah, Double Standard.

"But I will say that one of the reasons why I dislike the term "Mary Sue" (which I've frequently seen Rose Potter labeled with) and the frequent usage of the term is because I feel that female characters tend to be unfairly picked on much more than male characters, be they canon or OCs."

*This*.

And thank you. :)