[identity profile] ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock

Am I the only one a little bothered by Dumbledore? Not only with the fact he could end up in the Guinness Book Of World Records for "Most Incompetent Headmaster of All Time" (though I'm sure there's worse. :P), but also because...he just bugs me. I know JKR was trying to write him as the "flawed Yoda", so to speak (and to be fair, he's nowhere near Yoda. XD), but it's also how...preachy he gets. Towards Fudge, for example. You know, in Goblet of Fire, with, "You place too much importance on purity of blood, yadda yadda et cetera et cetera" -- which considering how he treated Tom Riddle and the Slytherins is...slightly hypocritical isn't it? Probably bad writing on JKR's part, though. :/

Anyways, sorry 'bout the rambling. Thoughts?

Date: 2011-03-10 06:47 pm (UTC)
sunnyskywalker: Young Beru Lars from Attack of the Clones; text "Sunnyskywalker" (spandex jackets)
From: [personal profile] sunnyskywalker
Dunno. He can't seriously have expected Voldemort to just walk up, give Harry some non-harmful mark, and leave - he knows the guy! - and predicting that whatever Voldemort does will not kill the kid and will in fact destroy Voldemort's body is... way too unlikely to count on, given the vagueness of the prophecy. That could have been the end of "either must die at the hand of the other" right there with Baby Harry dead at Voldemort's hand, and the end of Dumbledore's chances to have a Child of Prophecy to defeat Voldemort (or anything else he might want a pet Chosen One for). And it seems like Voldemort's practice was to flee the scene after he killed people, Dumbledore wouldn't even get a chance to go toe-to-toe with him as Plan B.

So I guess I'd have to say that while he was willing to sacrifice James and Lily if he thought it was for the greater good, in this specific case, he probably didn't plan it quite this way. But once he found out about Harry's scar, he must have gone, "Whew! Got off lucky!" And then took advantage of the Snape situation, because it was there.

Date: 2011-03-10 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seductivedark.livejournal.com
...and the end of Dumbledore's chances to have a Child of Prophecy to defeat Voldemort...

There's always Neville, also born as the 7th month dies (only a day earlier while it still had a little life left.) Given Dumbledore's apparent omniscience in the series, I wouldn't have put it past him to palm off a fertility potion or spell to both the Potters and the Longbottoms to ensure that he'd get a) a male as per the prophecy and b) a Chosen One whose loyalties would be to the Order.

Date: 2011-03-10 08:48 pm (UTC)
sunnyskywalker: Young Beru Lars from Attack of the Clones; text "Sunnyskywalker" (spandex jackets)
From: [personal profile] sunnyskywalker
True, he had a backup baby. But it seems foolish to risk getting one outright killed if there's a 50/50 chance that he's the One and the prophecy's been fulfilled now that he's dead, so I guess a lot depends on what Dumbledore thought this marking would involve.

A covert fertility potion would make for a creepy scheme!

Date: 2011-03-10 09:10 pm (UTC)
sunnyskywalker: Young Beru Lars from Attack of the Clones; text "Sunnyskywalker" (spandex jackets)
From: [personal profile] sunnyskywalker
Like [livejournal.com profile] seductivedark said, making sure the fertile young Order couples get pregnant. Although now I can't remember whether the prophecy was made before they got pregnant, in which case he could have planned it, or after, in which case he had something else in mind at first (unless he has a time-turner and was able to hop back several months to tell himself the plan).

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