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Am I the only one a little bothered by Dumbledore? Not only with the fact he could end up in the Guinness Book Of World Records for "Most Incompetent Headmaster of All Time" (though I'm sure there's worse. :P), but also because...he just bugs me. I know JKR was trying to write him as the "flawed Yoda", so to speak (and to be fair, he's nowhere near Yoda. XD), but it's also how...preachy he gets. Towards Fudge, for example. You know, in Goblet of Fire, with, "You place too much importance on purity of blood, yadda yadda et cetera et cetera" -- which considering how he treated Tom Riddle and the Slytherins is...slightly hypocritical isn't it? Probably bad writing on JKR's part, though. :/

Anyways, sorry 'bout the rambling. Thoughts?

Comments

[oryx_leucoryx]

Well, we know for certain the Potters lived in Godric's Hollow for at least a few months before adding the Fidelius - they did not move to a different location just before adding that protection. So if it was possible for Tom to get the entire village based on prior knowledge that the Potters once lived there they did not avoid that problem.

As for 12GP - I don't think it mattered what Kreacher said about the location of Order HQ. It was obvious he had seen both Sirius and Harry. And Narcissa used to know where Kreacher lived. But with the Fidelius she couldn't, nor was Bellatrix able to put the pieces together later on.

[sunnyskywalker]

We know from DH that the Death Eaters can remember that a hidden location must be somewhere on that street, though, once they get the information, even if they still can't see it or get in. They just lurk outside across the street. (Evidently they wanted to capture rather than kill, or they could have just blown a gas main. Unless there are anti-gas-main-explosion wards on the house.) So if Kreacher had told Bellatrix and Narcissa that McGonagall was seen walking along Grimmauld Place, they could have kept that much in their minds and concluded that the Order was operating somewhere on the street, even if they couldn't connect it to their prior, now Fidelius-removed knowledge. Maybe they just didn't think of asking specific enough questions.

[oryx_leucoryx]

In DH when the trio first arrives at 12GP the DEs aren't yet in the square, they only show up later. I think they were drawn to the place by Harry and Hermione's activation of the Taboo. But the DEs couldn't locate the Taboo-breakers because of the Fidelius.

[sunnyskywalker]

No, but if they could at least know that something was up somewhere nearby without forgetting a few minutes after the Taboo-alarm had gone off, then it should also be possible to tell someone that "those people you're interested have been seen walking along this street" and have them be able to remember that much. Likewise if it's the house in Godric's Holow that's under Fidelius, that shouldn't stop anyone from reporting if they saw the Potters walking around the town. If DEs want to get in, they're still SOL, but if all they want to do is kill everyone, they don't need to know the exact location. If someone had wanted to kill the Potters/a bunch of Order members, they could just cause massive destruction to the whole area. Or wait nearby while Disillusioned for the targets to come out. Even if they miss they still terrify the nearby Muggles, another part of the program, so there's even a consolation prize.

That seems like one of the tricks to Fidelius: it isn't set up to be user-proof. If you reveal too many circumstantial clues, you still can't technically be found, but you aren't totally safe either. The Potters didn't quite get all this, or they wouldn't have put a house under Fidelius in the same town where they'd been wandering around talking to Bathilda. If Voldemort hadn't been the kind of villain who really wants to see his targets die instead of just blowing them up from a distance, it might still have worked if it hadn't been for Peter.