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As we all know the books left a lot of questions unanswered. So many things are contradictory and just flat out don't make any sense. 


I've often thought about Tom Riddle's time at Hogwarts and those memories that Dumbledore showed Harry. Many of the things Dumbles told Harry didn't make any sense. Worse some of the reasons he gave Harry for the things that he did make even less sense. I'm thinking here of Trelawney's interview being held in the Hog's Head because it was raining. Was she related to the Wicked Witch of the West? Did she fear death by melting? But I digress, back to my musings about Tom.


How was it that Tom was able to amass a loyal following that included the likes of Avery, Lestrange, and one can only assume Malfoy. Although they must have been the fathers of Lucius Malfoy's generation. I know Dumbledore tells Harry that he believed Tom did it by virtue of his Parslemouth ability, his charm, good looks, and superior intellect, but I have to wonder. Perhaps I'm too cynical, but during those "lessons" Dumbledore is so cagey in what he reveals I really have trouble taking anything he says at face value.



So here is my thought process, Tom starts Hogwarts in 1938 and he is sorted into Slytherin. The boy's origins at this point are a complete mystery. All that is known is that he was born and raised in a Muggle orphanage. With the great importance placed upon bloodlines and family ties, it is reasonable to assume that the child's parents were not magical. Having children out of wedlock would have been nearly unthinkable to the society stuck in the Victorian age. So as far as Riddle's housemates could see he was a muggle-born or at best a half-blood. Even him being a half-blood I think they would've discounted because again bloodline and family were so important. He could've been the product of a sexual assault but I think in their minds that would've been just as bad since he would've been a bastard. 


What I picture is this muggle-born boy being sorted into the house that values blood purity over everything, he's there on a bursary/scholarship so he's penniless. He would have only second-hand robes and supplies, he would have known little to nothing about the wizarding world and its customs. We already know that Snape was not well treated within his house for being poor, it is possible that the difference was that Tom was attractive whereas Snape was not. I can see that Tom's housemates might have made his time there a living hell. I can even see that he might have felt that but for the ability to do magic he was no better off than at the orphanage.


So what about his Parselmouth abilities, could he have won his housemates over by displaying one of the traits of their founder? Possibly, but then again that might have made his situation worse. I think that the Slytherins would only have seen this jumped-up little "mudblood" having delusions far above his station and made it their mission to put him in his place. 


I just don't buy that the Slytherins would have followed someone that as far as they knew was a "mudblood." Remember, Dumbledore tells Harry that Tom found out about his mother's family in the summer of his sixteenth year. Even if he found out much earlier about his family, I think the Slytherins would not have believed him or him trying to appropriate a status to which he had no right. I'm also not really sure about Tom's inclusion in the Slug Club unless it was for his brilliance alone. As a muggle-born or even a half-blood, Tom wouldn't have had much in the way of future potential to attract Sluggy's attention.


Dumbledore told Harry that he had considerable trouble locating anyone with memories of Tom's school days and those that did were reluctant to talk about it. But why would reluctance matter to a Master Legillimens? For that matter, why could Dumbledore not get the "true" memory off Slughorn? 


In the alternate universe of my headcanon Dumbledore implanted those memories into Slughorn. The reason he couldn't find memories of Tom's time at Hogwarts is that everyone remembered Tom's school career very differently and what they remembered wouldn't fit the narrative Dumbledore wanted. In this alternate universe, Tom is treated as the muggle-born he appears to be and he resents the stuck up pure-bloods and vows revenge. He finds out he's descended from the Slytherin line but he keeps that information to himself. It is only after he leaves Hogwarts and vanishes for those ten years that he becomes Lord Voldemort. Then when he comes back to England no one except Dumbledore suspects that he's Tom Riddle. Voldemort avenges himself on Malfoy, Lestrange, Avery, and the rest by coopting the pure-blood dogma and enslaving their children. All the while taking great pleasure in seeing their sons and daughters groveling at his feet. 


That sounds much more interesting to me than what we got. Tom was descended from rotten stock so that's why he's evil. Something for me to consider writing, maybe after I'm finished with my present fic.


Date: 2020-08-06 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aikaterini.livejournal.com
/I know Dumbledore tells Harry that he believed Tom did it by virtue of his Parslemouth ability, his charm, good looks, and superior intellect/

He also tells Harry that Tom's gang was “a motley collection, a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish, gravitating towards a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty." I suppose that if the weak were desperate enough for protection and the thuggish were bloodthirsty enough, they might not care what the background of their leader was. But if Tom had been shunned due to his background like your headcanon suggests, I don't know why the ambitious would gravitate to his 'shared glory.'

I agree that Tom's reception in Slughorn's memories doesn't really reflect the blood purity obsession of the wizarding world. Not only is Tom in the Slug Club, but in Slughorn's memories, the other boys (who would likely be in Slytherin) throw him "admiring glances." Tom does mention some concern about his background, but both Slughorn and the boys don't seem to care about it. If Slytherin House cares so much about blood purity, why do they seemingly not care about this penniless orphan rising through the ranks?

/We already know that Snape was not well treated within his house for being poor/

But we don't see him treated nearly as badly by them as he is by the all-Gryffindor Marauders. James even starts sneering at Snape on the train before they're even Sorted, paralleling your sentence here:

/I think that the Slytherins would only have seen this jumped-up little "mudblood" having delusions far above his station and made it their mission to put him in his place/

It's as if there's this fundamental disconnect between what Slytherin House is supposed to be and how its members actually act. Yes, they're the ones to snarl "Mudblood" at Hermione and others, but when they're not doing that, what do they do? They accept poor, obscure orphan Tom Riddle and enable him to rise to power. Lucius Malfoy accepts poor, halfblood Snape. Draco Malfoy approaches and initiates conversation with a boy who's dressed in secondhand Muggle clothes that are too big for him before he has any idea who that boy is. Regulus Black has a close enough relationship with his house elf that the elf's mistreatment moves him to turn against a Dark Lord. Eileen Prince and Merope Gaunt both marry Muggle men. Horace Slughorn evolves his Slug Club over time to include girls and Muggle-born students (yes, he does make insensitive remarks about Hermione's background, but he still accepts her and treats her with far more attention than he does for pureblood Ron).

And yet despite all of that, Slytherin House is supposed to be the home of snobbish, insular, aristocratic brats who are obsessed with bloodlines and lineage. They're meant to be the snooty rich kids who don't let anyone else into their clique and turn up their noses at everyone else.

/In this alternate universe, Tom is treated as the muggle-born he appears to be and he resents the stuck up pure-bloods and vows revenge/

In this alternate universe, would the Chamber of Secrets fiasco therefore be a manifestation of his inner self-loathing or an attempt to curry favor with the purebloods before giving up?

/Voldemort avenges himself on Malfoy, Lestrange, Avery, and the rest by coopting the pure-blood dogma and enslaving their children. All the while taking great pleasure in seeing their sons and daughters groveling at his feet/

That does fit how we see him treat them. He preaches about blood purity, but we see that he doesn't really treat purebloods any better than he does Muggle-borns. And blood purity doesn't really have anything to do with his actual goal: immortality. One theory that's been proposed here is that he realized that half-bloods like himself and Snape had a better chance of being magically powerful, so he promoted the pureblood line to weed out the competition.

Date: 2020-08-06 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorea-ysleen.livejournal.com

What if it's not purity of blood that the Slytherins actually care about, but wizarding traditions? In Madame Malkin's Draco tells Harry that muggleborns shouldn't be allowed at Hogwarts because "they don't know our ways".

In my head canon, it's a rather recent development that only muggle holidays are observed at Hogwarts - especially the commercial version of Halloween, which isn't even that old. Sure, some of that could have happened before segregation, when lots of wizards would have known and maybe observed/pretended to observe the Christian holidays, but what if afterwards they went back to the older celebrations, like yule, samhain, beltane and so on.

Then suddenly they have muggle holidays, muggle studies (instead of or surviving the termination of wizading culture classes), History of Magic becomes a joke... and everyone who has a problem with that is obviously a bigotted racist. I mean it seems like nowadays muggleborns arrive at Hogwarts already disregarding wizarding traditions and villainising/looking down on people who care. That would of course breed resentment and give the few actual racists lots of arguments.

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