Many readers have wondered why none of the adults who care about Harry confronted the Dursleys during his first five years at Hogwarts. What suddenly made them take action in 1996 when they hadn’t seen a need before? ( Read more... )
Allies the Order never made
Jan. 22nd, 2022 10:39 amWe hear of several Order members’ missions—mostly unsuccessful—to convince various groups not to join Voldemort, and perhaps fight him instead. Remus tries “reasoned argument” with the werewolves, Hagrid and Maxime give gifts to the Gurg of the giants, and Charlie maybe talks to his dragon-handler friends. Dumbledore himself has apparently been talking to the centaurs for several years, judging by the way Firenze has surprisingly detailed information about the philosopher’s stone trap and the identity of the unicorn-killer.
There’s an interesting omission here. Did anyone try to negotiate with the goblins?
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There’s an interesting omission here. Did anyone try to negotiate with the goblins?
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The redeemed individual in HP
Aug. 8th, 2020 07:38 pmDeclaration: I do not agree with all statements made in this article and, as a non-American, am hardly a political expert, so this link does not mean endorsement of any 'non-HP things.'
Why is this article worth reading?
What stood out to me was the interesting reading of OoTF. It has always been my least favorite HP book. After waiting for years for its publication, I remember practically suffering and wanting to shut the book down every time Dolores Umbridge or Harry's anger made an appearance. Since one of the two, of most often their combination, are ubiquitous in OoTF, you may imagine the 'joy' of reading.
Renee Gorman's interpretation of Harry's evolution in OoTF at last reconciled me to this part of the series.
QUOTE from the article
Harry’s frustration stems from both the fact that he knows the truth and that he is being punished for his virtue: an injustice that is difficult to swallow. But he is also battling with his loss of popularity and celebrity. Though Harry consistently claims to hate the limelight—and though he genuinely does at times—he also secretly prizes his famous persona.
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Why is this article worth reading?
What stood out to me was the interesting reading of OoTF. It has always been my least favorite HP book. After waiting for years for its publication, I remember practically suffering and wanting to shut the book down every time Dolores Umbridge or Harry's anger made an appearance. Since one of the two, of most often their combination, are ubiquitous in OoTF, you may imagine the 'joy' of reading.
Renee Gorman's interpretation of Harry's evolution in OoTF at last reconciled me to this part of the series.
QUOTE from the article
Harry’s frustration stems from both the fact that he knows the truth and that he is being punished for his virtue: an injustice that is difficult to swallow. But he is also battling with his loss of popularity and celebrity. Though Harry consistently claims to hate the limelight—and though he genuinely does at times—he also secretly prizes his famous persona.
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Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 20
Nov. 16th, 2014 07:05 am( I had fun with this one! >:D )
*A/N: You know, for someone who's half-giant Hagrid is remarkably contemptuous of that part of his heritage. I get that internalized prejudice is a thing, but we're never meant to see him as being WRONG for thinking this way!
**A/N: I exaggerate but only slightly--this too was in the text!
*A/N: You know, for someone who's half-giant Hagrid is remarkably contemptuous of that part of his heritage. I get that internalized prejudice is a thing, but we're never meant to see him as being WRONG for thinking this way!
**A/N: I exaggerate but only slightly--this too was in the text!
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 19
Nov. 7th, 2014 04:08 pmIn honor of the Bonfire Night festivities being held in the city, have another one of these!
( Some brief mention of suicide in this one )
*A/N: Just because you point out that Hermione would be a textbook Ravenclaw if she didn’t have to be in Gryffindor for the sake of the story doesn’t excuse it, Rowling….
**A/N: For the record, this was also in the text.
( Some brief mention of suicide in this one )
*A/N: Just because you point out that Hermione would be a textbook Ravenclaw if she didn’t have to be in Gryffindor for the sake of the story doesn’t excuse it, Rowling….
**A/N: For the record, this was also in the text.
Let’s think about the Black Family Tree for a moment—not the data in the possibly non-canonical display of Phineas’s branch that was created by JKR for a charity auction, but the hanging itself, that Sirius showed off to Harry, with commentary. What does canon say, and what can we deduce, about the Black Family Tapestry?
It’s not a prepossessing object, to Harry’s eyes. It’s a downright disgusting one, to Sirius. But Kreacher regards it with all of his late mistress’s utter veneration. Here they all are in OotP 6:
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It’s not a prepossessing object, to Harry’s eyes. It’s a downright disgusting one, to Sirius. But Kreacher regards it with all of his late mistress’s utter veneration. Here they all are in OotP 6:
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Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 18
Oct. 19th, 2014 06:07 pmGreetings from Salazar Slytherin's home turf (no, really--I'm studying abroad there right now)!
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Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 17
Aug. 12th, 2014 10:49 pm[Now that so many students have pledged to resist Umbridge, Harry’s mood improves]
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Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 16
Aug. 10th, 2014 06:32 pm[Sometime later, Hermione broaches the subject of Harry teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts again.]
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JKR and tears
Mar. 16th, 2014 10:25 pmHi there everyone,
I used to be just ChoCedric, it has been a while since I've posted anything on this community, but I really needed to vent, and you guys are a great group of people to rant to, because I know you won't put me down, tell me that I'm just a big baby, or that my ideas are stupid.
I know I've said this on here before, but no matter how much time passes, I just can't seem to get over how JKR deals with emotion. It is often the case that when we are reading a book, we are told that it is good to think like the protagonist does, and it is definitely true in this case, what with JKR's comments about how the sun rises and sets on the saintlike Harry Potter.
As you all know by my username and by rants I've posted on this community before, this is particularly glaring to me in the example of Cho Chang. We are told to view her grief in a very negative light because a. she cries a lot, and b. she wants to know exactly what Cedric faced in his last moments. Because we, the readers, know what happened to him, we should just accept that others, those who knew and truly loved Cedric, don't need to have it explained to them. In the real world, if a teenage girl's boyfriend's corpse was dumped on a sports field with everyone ogling it and screaming, his blank, lifeless eyes staring into the sky, she would want to know why. And she'd hunt for answers, too. She wouldn't just wait until St. Albus Dumbledore the All-Knowing told her what had happened, and anyone who questioned St. Harry Potter, in the real world, would be considered reasonable people rather than evil incarnate.
I also honestly think that Rowling's whole issue with showing grief by crying is unfortunately something that many people in our society agree with, simply because of how Cho's behavior in OOtP was demonized by so many in the fandom. There are so many fans of Harry Potter that I talk to who say things like, "Oh, I couldn't stand Cho! She was such a bitch for crying all over poor Harry like that!" Those comments make me soooooo pissed! I think this is because so many in this day and age consider crying a weakness. God, could anything be more untrue? Granted, there's a time and a place to cry, but Cho was mainly doing it in bathrooms, and I think that's the perfect place! Yeah, maybe the outburst in Madame Puddifoot's was not quite the setting, but this was after months and months of her not knowing whether he'd suffered, whether he was in pain before he died, exactly what he'd been through. So I wholeheartedly understand why it happened.
When I mention that she and Cedric could have been very much in love (and I think this could definitely be the case, considering how lost and sad Cho was) I get rebuttals like, "But she's only a teenager! She doesn't even know what love is!" And that, too, is soooooo unbelievably untrue. I am 27 years old, and do you know how old I was when I dated my first serious boyfriend? I was 12! And we were very serious for many years. Believe me, if things hadn't worked out like they did, like the fact that he started drinking very heavily once he turned 21, and by heavily I mean so heavily that I was afraid he'd end up in hospital, I would be married to him today, if he'd continued to care for me as much as I cared for him, I loved him that much. He was everything to me. Even when our relationship started going to the dogs, I stuck it out for another 11 months because I wasn't ready to give up on him, I thought it was just a phase he was going through. And no, don't worry, he wasn't physically abusive. He just started getting very possessive and very jealous of who I hung out with, even if it was just with my sister, for Merlin's sake! But we'd had so much history together that I wasn't ready to let him go when things started to go downhill.
But that's enough about me. What I'm trying to say is that it's not unheard of for people who meet and fall in love very young to stay together. Granted, it's not unbelievably common, but it does happen. So the "you can't fall in love as a teenager!" thing just doesn't wash.
Please tell me any other thoughts you have on this! I know we've talked about this before, but do you guys agree that it's to do with the society we are growing up in that JKR considers tears really, really bad and seething, frothing rage really, really good? How do you think Harry would have reacted if Ginny's cold, lifeless body had been dropped in front of him?
I used to be just ChoCedric, it has been a while since I've posted anything on this community, but I really needed to vent, and you guys are a great group of people to rant to, because I know you won't put me down, tell me that I'm just a big baby, or that my ideas are stupid.
I know I've said this on here before, but no matter how much time passes, I just can't seem to get over how JKR deals with emotion. It is often the case that when we are reading a book, we are told that it is good to think like the protagonist does, and it is definitely true in this case, what with JKR's comments about how the sun rises and sets on the saintlike Harry Potter.
As you all know by my username and by rants I've posted on this community before, this is particularly glaring to me in the example of Cho Chang. We are told to view her grief in a very negative light because a. she cries a lot, and b. she wants to know exactly what Cedric faced in his last moments. Because we, the readers, know what happened to him, we should just accept that others, those who knew and truly loved Cedric, don't need to have it explained to them. In the real world, if a teenage girl's boyfriend's corpse was dumped on a sports field with everyone ogling it and screaming, his blank, lifeless eyes staring into the sky, she would want to know why. And she'd hunt for answers, too. She wouldn't just wait until St. Albus Dumbledore the All-Knowing told her what had happened, and anyone who questioned St. Harry Potter, in the real world, would be considered reasonable people rather than evil incarnate.
I also honestly think that Rowling's whole issue with showing grief by crying is unfortunately something that many people in our society agree with, simply because of how Cho's behavior in OOtP was demonized by so many in the fandom. There are so many fans of Harry Potter that I talk to who say things like, "Oh, I couldn't stand Cho! She was such a bitch for crying all over poor Harry like that!" Those comments make me soooooo pissed! I think this is because so many in this day and age consider crying a weakness. God, could anything be more untrue? Granted, there's a time and a place to cry, but Cho was mainly doing it in bathrooms, and I think that's the perfect place! Yeah, maybe the outburst in Madame Puddifoot's was not quite the setting, but this was after months and months of her not knowing whether he'd suffered, whether he was in pain before he died, exactly what he'd been through. So I wholeheartedly understand why it happened.
When I mention that she and Cedric could have been very much in love (and I think this could definitely be the case, considering how lost and sad Cho was) I get rebuttals like, "But she's only a teenager! She doesn't even know what love is!" And that, too, is soooooo unbelievably untrue. I am 27 years old, and do you know how old I was when I dated my first serious boyfriend? I was 12! And we were very serious for many years. Believe me, if things hadn't worked out like they did, like the fact that he started drinking very heavily once he turned 21, and by heavily I mean so heavily that I was afraid he'd end up in hospital, I would be married to him today, if he'd continued to care for me as much as I cared for him, I loved him that much. He was everything to me. Even when our relationship started going to the dogs, I stuck it out for another 11 months because I wasn't ready to give up on him, I thought it was just a phase he was going through. And no, don't worry, he wasn't physically abusive. He just started getting very possessive and very jealous of who I hung out with, even if it was just with my sister, for Merlin's sake! But we'd had so much history together that I wasn't ready to let him go when things started to go downhill.
But that's enough about me. What I'm trying to say is that it's not unheard of for people who meet and fall in love very young to stay together. Granted, it's not unbelievably common, but it does happen. So the "you can't fall in love as a teenager!" thing just doesn't wash.
Please tell me any other thoughts you have on this! I know we've talked about this before, but do you guys agree that it's to do with the society we are growing up in that JKR considers tears really, really bad and seething, frothing rage really, really good? How do you think Harry would have reacted if Ginny's cold, lifeless body had been dropped in front of him?
Miss Granger and the Centaurs
Mar. 8th, 2014 08:32 amMiss Granger and the Centaurs
Back in the comments to “The Missing Mirror” spork, the issue of what, precisely, Hermione hoped to accomplish by dragging Umbridge into the Forbidden Forest came up again. And it was clear from the comments that people didn’t remember precisely what canon told us about Hermione’s knowledge of the centaurs. Specifically, everyone was forgetting that she’d encountered the centaurs in Hagrid’s company less than a week before she led Madam Umbridge out to meet them.
When Hagrid took her and Harry to be introduced to his little brother (OotP 30).
So in evaluating what Hermione might have expected to happen, we need first to look at what she learned from the previous encounter. Let’s look at it.
Before they entered the Forest, we read:
( Hagrid )
Back in the comments to “The Missing Mirror” spork, the issue of what, precisely, Hermione hoped to accomplish by dragging Umbridge into the Forbidden Forest came up again. And it was clear from the comments that people didn’t remember precisely what canon told us about Hermione’s knowledge of the centaurs. Specifically, everyone was forgetting that she’d encountered the centaurs in Hagrid’s company less than a week before she led Madam Umbridge out to meet them.
When Hagrid took her and Harry to be introduced to his little brother (OotP 30).
So in evaluating what Hermione might have expected to happen, we need first to look at what she learned from the previous encounter. Let’s look at it.
Before they entered the Forest, we read:
( Hagrid )
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 15
Jan. 8th, 2014 06:22 pm[The next day, an ominous newspaper article arrives at breakfast.]
( Read Chapter 15 )
*Okay, seriously—if this were important it should have been introduced a lot earlier. As it is it's a completely forced conversation, that they're having for no other reason than to inform the audience of the grading system! It's yet another thing you'd see in amateur fanfic, not professionally-produced novels!
( Read Chapter 15 )
*Okay, seriously—if this were important it should have been introduced a lot earlier. As it is it's a completely forced conversation, that they're having for no other reason than to inform the audience of the grading system! It's yet another thing you'd see in amateur fanfic, not professionally-produced novels!
Some thoughts regarding Umbridge...
Jan. 7th, 2014 09:13 pmSo, as I've been preparing Abridged chapters of OotP I've obviously been doing quite a lot with Umbridge, and there will be more still to come. The more I think about the way she's presented in the books, the more disturbing and inappropriate it seems.
I first read the fifth Harry Potter book when I was around eleven or twelve years old, and I distinctly remember not being particularly troubled by Umbridge at that time, although I understood that she was a villain. I even found a lot of the things the students and professors did to try and outwit her funny, to the point she almost seemed to be a joke character (particularly because she's introduced as someone we're supposed to hate because, horror of horrors, she makes the students read their books and doesn't let them use magic).
Now, apparently that wasn't the intent. Apparently we really were supposed to see her as a bad guy played completely straight, and as someone worse than Voldemort--but the trouble is, her abuse of Harry is handled about the same as the Dursleys' abuse of him: yes, it's horrible, and in the real world it would be grounds for him to be taken away from her forever; but like the Dursleys she's presented mostly as something to mock (or at least that's how she came across to me). Think about it: if Umbridge is really a villain who's supposed to be played seriously and invoke nothing but fear and loathing, then how come the series basically has the students wage war against her through pulling pranks? It's an extra layer of silliness that's detrimental to our understanding of her as a sadistic monster, as, in a way, is having the first thing we see her do in class be to make the students read instead of doing magic--in a series that was anti-intellectual to begin with! The more I look over this book, the more it seems like Rowling just couldn't decide whether she wanted Umbridge to be a children's book stereotype like the principal from Matilda or whether she wanted her to be a seriously credible threat as a villain, and as a result her portrayal's a mess. Sure Umbridge is a sadistic psychopath who mutilates fifteen-year-olds, but how are we supposed to take her seriously when she's stumped by students setting off fireworks in her classes or eating candy that makes them sick enough to miss them?
And needless to say, the idea that Umbridge could be a bad guy in her own right without being a Death Eater went out the window by Book 7, where she's towing Voldemort's party line anyway.
Sorry--this is a lump of undigested thoughts. But I just think there's something very wrong with the way Umbridge is portrayed, you know?
I first read the fifth Harry Potter book when I was around eleven or twelve years old, and I distinctly remember not being particularly troubled by Umbridge at that time, although I understood that she was a villain. I even found a lot of the things the students and professors did to try and outwit her funny, to the point she almost seemed to be a joke character (particularly because she's introduced as someone we're supposed to hate because, horror of horrors, she makes the students read their books and doesn't let them use magic).
Now, apparently that wasn't the intent. Apparently we really were supposed to see her as a bad guy played completely straight, and as someone worse than Voldemort--but the trouble is, her abuse of Harry is handled about the same as the Dursleys' abuse of him: yes, it's horrible, and in the real world it would be grounds for him to be taken away from her forever; but like the Dursleys she's presented mostly as something to mock (or at least that's how she came across to me). Think about it: if Umbridge is really a villain who's supposed to be played seriously and invoke nothing but fear and loathing, then how come the series basically has the students wage war against her through pulling pranks? It's an extra layer of silliness that's detrimental to our understanding of her as a sadistic monster, as, in a way, is having the first thing we see her do in class be to make the students read instead of doing magic--in a series that was anti-intellectual to begin with! The more I look over this book, the more it seems like Rowling just couldn't decide whether she wanted Umbridge to be a children's book stereotype like the principal from Matilda or whether she wanted her to be a seriously credible threat as a villain, and as a result her portrayal's a mess. Sure Umbridge is a sadistic psychopath who mutilates fifteen-year-olds, but how are we supposed to take her seriously when she's stumped by students setting off fireworks in her classes or eating candy that makes them sick enough to miss them?
And needless to say, the idea that Umbridge could be a bad guy in her own right without being a Death Eater went out the window by Book 7, where she's towing Voldemort's party line anyway.
Sorry--this is a lump of undigested thoughts. But I just think there's something very wrong with the way Umbridge is portrayed, you know?
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 13
Dec. 29th, 2013 11:50 pm[After class, Harry goes to dinner, where everyone is talking about him]
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*A/N: As I think of it, did this not occur to Rowling?
( Read Chapter 13 )
*A/N: As I think of it, did this not occur to Rowling?
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 12
Dec. 18th, 2013 03:27 pm[The next morning, Seamus wakes up early and leaves before anyone else has gotten out of bed.]
( Read Chapter 12. Do it or Umbridge will carve up you hand. )
*Before anyone asks, yes this was in the text of the book itself!
( Read Chapter 12. Do it or Umbridge will carve up you hand. )
*Before anyone asks, yes this was in the text of the book itself!
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 11
Dec. 9th, 2013 02:12 pm( Read Chapter 11 )
*I'm sorry--it was way too easy!
*I'm sorry--it was way too easy!
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 8
Sep. 4th, 2013 10:40 pmHarry: OMG! I…I recognize this place! It’s the exact same place I visited in Dumbledore’s Pensieve last book!
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( Read Chapter 8 )
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 7
Aug. 24th, 2013 09:19 pm[The next day, Harry wakes up super early to get to his hearing.]
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( Read Chapter 7 )
Harry Potter Abridged! OotP Chapter 6
Aug. 18th, 2013 01:03 pm[After that long, intense discussion, Harry and co. all go to their rooms to go to sleep.]
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