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HBP Chapter Twenty-Nine
*"C’mere, Harry…" Oh good lord, have I just stumbled into some sick Hagrid/Harry hurt/comfort??!!
*Harry did not want to leave Dumbledore’s side. Until he realized he couldn’t shut himself away or crack up because Dumbledore wouldn’t want that. Life’s too short.
*How much you want to bet Dumbledore gets far more grief from Harry than Sirius did in Book VII? After all, Sirius seemed to want Harry to live for himself and never demanded total personal loyalty. You snooze you lose, Sirius!
*Harry’s pulled away from the corpse only by Ginny’s glittery, flowery-scented hoo-ha, particularly pungent now that she’s sweating from a battle. Or maybe it’s her Bonne Bell Dr. Pepper flavored lip gloss.
*People are sobbing and wailing all over the place. Based on Ginny’s reaction to Ollivander’s disappearance I’d guess they’re yelling things like, "But who will give our opening speeches each year?"
*Of course most of the student body is just trying to remember what Dumbledore looked like, so little had they to do with him over the years.
*Who else is dead? Don’t worry, none of us says Ginny, which pretty much sums up the Gryffindor credo right there.
*Madam Pomfrey says Bill won’t look the same anymore. Why, of course not! He’ll have those scars every Gryffindor covets!
*Ginny says if they’d hadn’t had the FF they would have died, but as it was everything just missed them. Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
*LOL! I had completely forgotten that Harry has one more thought about Sectumsempra here, where he remembers how easily Snape had mended Malfoy’s cuts with his wand. I assume Harry’s being resentful about that and not thinking how Snape really was a useful guy to have around.
*Ron starts talking about Dumbledore owing somebody something—ooh, better be careful Ron. A little more of that kind of talk and you’ll be branded one of the Slytherfen!
*Lupin’s just hearing Dumbledore’s dead now? What as all the wailing about earlier if it’s not widely known? Oh—probably everyone was upset about those Gryffindor rubies all over the floor.
*Harry’s never seen Lupin lose control before,
*I love Ron’s groan when Harry says Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore. It’s just much better than Hermione’s fake hand-to-the-mouth expression of "who could ever have seen that coming?"
*The phoenix starts to sing. Don’t suppose it might deign to come and cry on Bill at all, will it?
*Nah. Grief for Dumbledore has to be turned into the most beautiful song ever, unlike, you know, the more "realistic" grief Sirius would have wanted.
*McGonagall rocks just for coming in and shutting Fawkes off. OMG ESE!McGonagall! Is she wearing green?
*The adults in this scene continue to look incredibly dumb, seeming to reveal that yes, all this time they’ve had no idea why they were defending Snape and just trusted Dumbledore like he was Santa.
*In fact, they probably had this exact same reaction when Sirius was revealed as a traitor. And when Peter was revealed as a traitor. If Molly Weasley turned out to be a DE they’d have the same reaction.
*And of course since they just trusted Dumbledore they’ve no logical way of thinking about something else that might be going on with Snape. Suddenly everybody’s talking about the guy who’s saved their lives in the past like they always thought he was a total DE only they figured Dumbledore had some bit of info that said he wasn’t and he just never saw any reason to share it.
*I’m sure this is nothing like what the DEs went through when Voldemort was destroyed.
*Harry helpfully puts in his own completely fabricated story about how Dumbledore’s reason for trusting Snape was that he pretended to feel bad about the Prophecy.
*Now that it suits his purposes to care that Snape called Lily a Mudblood, Harry remembers Snape called Lily a Mudblood. He’s just so sensitive to fictional racial injustice!
*Actually, that’s probably brought up to lay the foundation of whatever Snape/Lily story we get in Book VII: I Called My Love a Mudblood… (sung to the tune of I Gave My Love a Cherry…)
*Nobody asks Harry how he knew Snape called Lily a Mudblood. Which is an odd little moment because Snape could have called her a Mudblood to Harry. Unless they all know that Snape only called her that that one time. And anyway, Lupin knows about the Pensieve trip.
*Lupin reminds everyone how glad they were that Snape was on the way. While at the same time never really trusting him at all.
*Harry’s all wanting details of Snape’s bad acts to feed his hatred. He can’t wait to start writing his imaginative 18-part History of Snape on Bad Penny, with the Order providing research. ("He didn’t stay for dinner at Grimmauld Place that time!")
*Let’s take a moment to thank god it’s Harry who was right about the Cabinet and not Hermione, who would die of smug about now.
*Ginny refers to Malfoy’s Hand of Glory as an awful shriveled arm because it’s really repulsive, unlike her beloved snot in all its wondrous forms.
*Ron reminds us the arm is called the Hand of Glory and that it is Malfoy’s. He neglects to remind us that last we saw, Malfoy didn’t have the arm in question.
*I’m going to fanwank this bit by saying that after not buying the hand for Draco in CoS Lucius told Draco that he could earn the money for it himself by cutting the grass and doing other chores around the Manor, but only if he got good grades. So Draco worked very hard and got the money, and the hand was always that much more valuable to him because he had earned it. The end.
*Ginny gets to the Peruvian Darkness Powder bit and Ron says he’ll have a talk to Fred and George about who buys their products. Funny he had no comments about the Vanishing Cabinet secret the Twins provided with the Trio’s blessing.
*Btw, I’m sure the Twins will totally take Ron’s talk into consideration and stop selling dangerous products that make them a lot of money.
*Ginny says they didn’t dare use any curses in case they hit each other in the dark. Nice of Malfoy not to use any curses on these guys, wasn’t it, since he could see them? I don’t think I’d have been able to resist throwing a bat bogey at Ginny.
*You can tell Ginny’s upset. She forgot to say "counter-curses."
*Draco used up that Darkness Powder pretty fast, didn’t he? More proof the kid doesn’t have a lot of money to throw around, rich or not!
*Snape so protected Flitwick. Go Snape.
*And presumably that was a bit of luck for Hermione that they let Snape go, since she had taken the Luck Potion—unless JKR forgot about that.
*Does anybody else notice that Lupin has said "It’s not your fault" about 12 times? It’s just what he would say, but I love him for it, trying to head off the Gryffindor rending of garments and concentrate on what can be done.
*Though he’s of course not above sticking in a little "Snape would have killed you if you’d stood in his way. Just take my word for it." Cause Snape was just killing people right and left tonight.
*And the Order was indeed losing to the second-string DEs.
*Ginny says she saw Snape but then had to duck as a hex just missed her and she dropped gracefully to the floor, her red hair flashing like a flame…
*McGonagall says Snape must have known a spell they didn’t. Oh, Minerva. You could probably fill a book with spells Snape knows and you don’t.
*Just noting that Malfoy went to the Tower before the barrier went up, so he could still have or not have the Dark Mark.
*Everyone thought Malfoy was being chased by DEs even though they’d been told he led the DEs in?
*Molly, Arthur and Fleur arrive to see Bill. True to form, everyone acts like Fleur has no business being there. I can’t imagine why she’s snooty to these people.
*Bill’s a unique case—meaning they haven’t yet determined just how cool his condition will be.
*And Ginny’s looking at Fleur with narrowed eyes, both hoping that she rejects Bill now that he’s scarred, and looking forward to judging her for it.
*Boy, it doesn’t get much ruder than that "going to be married" comment right in front of Fleur! Well done, Molly! Are you related to the Longbottoms by any chance?
*And then Molly even helpfully explains to Fleur that of course she didn’t mean Bill would stop loving Fleur. She meant Fleur was a shallow idiot who would dump him because of his looks. Um, Molly? You might want to have stuck with the first story. Fleur was giving you the benefit of the doubt there.
*I do kind of love the way Molly’s incapable of loving truly selflessly, like the way she’s always aware of what she wants everybody to do to make her happy. She’s like Homer Simpson, in a way.
*Molly and Fleur make up while Ginny’s own bitchiness towards Fleur magically disappears just at the moment she might have to be wrong.
*Not to be outdone, Tonks matches Fleur’s Gallic pride with some Black melodrama, throwing herself on Lupin, who gives in because there are a lot of people around providing peer pressure. *Sends Tonks a copy of "The Rules" and "He’s Just Not That Into You"*
*I’m going to assume Tonks did the proposing here.
*Harry figures out the whole Remus/Tonks plot, which actually seems a bit much for Harry to figure out, knowing Harry, but better than having Hermione explain it.
*You know, I’ve never thought Remus/Sirius was the least bit canon or that Remus wasn’t straight, but Remus has never seemed so gay as he seems in this scene. In a book where love is personified as a chest monster leaping out to devour the beloved, the guy needs a roomful of people to finally agree to go out with the girl throwing herself at him.
*I mean, knowing Remus he’s not going to come out and say that he really likes guys or just doesn’t want it enough to marry her. He would totally go on about his condition and his money. Poor guy. The one time his condition could be helpful and it won’t fly.
*Tonks is going to have to be calling this bunch around a lot every time she wants to have sex with Remus so they can peer pressure him into it.
*Hagrid appears, slightly less maudlin than he was when his killer spider died.
*Slughorn’s going to represent Slytherin as Head of House. For his first act as HoH all Slytherin boys should come to his office for a special chat. Then he’ll change the password to "Not as good as Gryffindor."
*LOL! Harry thinks Dumbledore’s office will have gone emo on him, and that Dumbledore might be lying there. Yeah, that’s totally where McGonagall would take you to talk, Harry. I’m sure she thinks the Corpse would make you pay attention to her more.
*Harry keeps Dumbledore’s spirit alive by refusing to tell anyone about the Horcruxes. Because there’s no way that destroying them would be a job for the crack team of adult Wizards he assembled to defeat Voldemort.
*Would be cool if McGonagall was ESE, though. That theory never quite goes away for me.
*Never stop following Dumbledore’s orders even when he’s dead. And that’s a good thing.
*"Snape!" ejaculated Slughorn. I’d rather not think of how many times Slughorn may have ejaculated with that name, myself.
*Slughorn says he thinks he knows Snape because he taught him. Slughorn who’s never noticed Harry cheating his way through class, who has no interest in anyone beyond what they can give him, and who had a favorite in Tom Riddle. I can see why he’d be shocked this one got past his spider senses.
*Slughorn’s certainly changed his tune about staying away from Hogwarts because it’s dangerous—yeah, only mothers would think Hogwarts was dangerous. Non-Gryffindor Mothers, that is.
*McGonagall says Dumbledore’s murder is more disturbing to her than Slytherin’s Muggleborn-eating monster undetected in the castle. Well, at least she’s got her priorities straight. Perhaps Draco was wrong second year. The attacks weren’t covered up, they just weren’t much important.
*They’ll consult the Board of Governors, who have never mattered whatsoever in the past. But that was when Dumbledore was alive! *sobs*
*Harry announces that if Dumbledore’s going to have a funeral at Hogwarts the students should be there so they can say good-bye. Has Harry really not noticed that most of the students have nothing to do with Dumbledore whatsoever? Well, it doesn’t matter. They should obviously be expected to grieve.
*In fact, it’s a very special funeral. They’re being graded on it. For gym.
*Harry’s just going to leave his cloak on the Astronomy Tower? I wouldn’t.
*The Fat Lady doesn’t ask for a password now the Dumbledore’s dead. What’s the point in passwords any more? Or living, really.
*Smart!Ron is waiting for Harry in the dorm. Hurray! I love Smart!Ron. And we so rarely get to see him.
*Harry doesn’t care who RAB is, and doubts he’ll ever feel curious again. Why do I feel like I’m having a déjà vu here? Oh yeah, cause this is Harry’s standard emo-reaction to the end of many books: was it only [insert random amount of time] since [something more pleasant] was happening? He didn’t care about [thing he always cares about] now. He never would care about [thing he cares about a lot] again.
*Unfortunately with the whole school mourning Harry can’t think about how amazing it is that everyone else can be going on living normally while he is tormented.
*And the Phoenix leaves since, like all truly good creatures, his loyalty begins and ends with Dumbledore personally.
Atomic Grenade
Whatever spells that DE was just throwing around it destroyed the castle.
Exploitation Filmmakers’ Credo
But Lupin had been told Malfoy let the DEs in, hadn’t he?
Idiot World
What do we do now that the old guy in the beard is dead? How will we know who’s good and who’s bad? I guess we’ll just keep following the orders he gave us when he was alive.
Informed Attributes
Geez, even I’m embarrassed by Lupin’s loss of control. Not to mention the obvious passion between lovers Lupin and Tonks. Get a room you two, will ya?
Misdirected Answering
Finally! The mystery of Tonks’ hair color is solved!
Selling Wood
Everybody’s pushing it in this chapter.
Final score: 6
Slytherin liquid count: Gryffindor rubies like blood on the floor, tears, tears and more tears, with grief turned into a song. Blood for Bill, though he’s treated with ointment, not Potion.

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I really shouldn't hope such infantile trust in Big Daddy comes to bite the Order on its collective arse in Book 7 if/when the Ministry flips them the bird, should I? Because we already know Scrimgeour saw through Dumbles' "Kindly Old Man, Loves Candy" schtick, and was never too fond of him.
Harry’s all wanting details of Snape’s bad acts to feed his hatred. He can’t wait to start writing his imaginative 18-part History of Snape on Bad Penny, with the Order providing research. ("He didn’t stay for dinner at Grimmauld Place that time!")
As Anonymous would say – FTW!
the Peruvian Darkness Powder bit...I’m sure the Twins will totally take Ron’s talk into consideration and stop selling dangerous products that make them a lot of money.
Rowling, Please! (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=20909) xD
Re:Ron&Twins,FF,Sectumsempra,DEs v. Order,Draco& gay!Remus
It reminded me of the Twins' reaction to Arthur's snake bite in OoTF: "Course we can go to St Mungo's if we want, he's our dad!... We don't care about the dumb Order! It's our dad dying we're talking about!" (when Sirius warned them: "Have you any idea what the Ministry would make of that information?... you could seriously damage the Order's-" (is interrupted))
The Twins and Ron don't grasp in the mature way what is really going on. They don't seem to understand that they don't fight for Dumbledore, but with him. Otoh, they are purebloods (no matter what they say about being 'blood traitors') & if V won, they would be able to live normally (DEs already love their joke shop) unlike Harry-the-prophesy-boy, Hermione-the-mudblood or Dumbledore-the-personal-V's-enemy-since-the-latter's-childhood.
To phrase it better: I know that if V wins, the Weasleys will be killed as Order members & Ron being Harry's best friend, but isn't it interesting that those purebloods give me the vibe of doing D a favor, while more personally motivated people (the ones V intends to kill) don't?
*Ginny says if they’d hadn’t had the FF they would have died, but as it was everything just missed them. Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
I hope not! The worst thing about FF isn't that this Deus ex machina is artificial and not original, but that it effectively kills all pretense of suspense (Harry drank it? He will get the memory. His friends used the potion? They will all stay not only alive but also not even mulitated like Bill.) Why don't all Order members just drink it in the next book & kill all DEs with V? It becomes so boring.
*LOL! I had completely forgotten that Harry has one more thought about Sectumsempra here...
I am sure JKR made Harry to think just one more time about this subject here to compare DE!Malfoy's "so easily" mended wounds with Hero!Bill's werewolf bites, which "are unlikely ever to heal fully". Just to prevent her readers from blowing the whole Sectumsempra incident out of proportion, like you did in that chapter's recap. :-)
* A thought: why didn't DEs try to go back through the RoR, the same way as they entered? Did they overestimate the Order, assuming that that path had already been blocked? Otherwise, there was no need of last chapter's dramatic flight of the Prince. They could just run there & quietly disappear. IITS for additional drama & the beauty of "DON'T CALL ME COWARD!"
* And the Order was indeed losing to the second-string DEs.
I have just solved this riddle: it seems like IITS in comparison with last year's battle, in which DEs were easily caught, but you have overlooked a little-but-important detail – last year D was there & took care of everything & this year without him they are almost losing, honestly![Re-reading that scene D effortlessly disarms all DEs except Bellatrix, who having to escape for plot purposes still seems to fight well. Those Blacks are hard to kill!]
Also, to be fair you have forgotten that last year Kingsley (who "was fighting two at once") was there too, probably with additional Order members.
*Everyone thought Malfoy was being chased by DEs even though they’d been told he led the DEs in?
It adds up only if you assume that the children told only "DEs are here" without giving any additional information. Since they apparently didn't tell about the RoR (Minerva still wonders how DEs got in in this chapter), it totally could happen.
* Remus has never seemed so gay as he seems in this scene. In a book where love is personified as a chest monster leaping out to devour the beloved, the guy needs a roomful of people to finally agree to go out with the girl throwing herself at him…
May be he is sane and has normal feelings (without 'chest monsters'), for example, feelings of grief that the beloved authority figure and the head of war effort, to whom he was personally loyal, had just been killed by an Order member.
Btw, if Snape is a DE, like they believe, can't say that the things look very good for the Order.
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Luna's interesting here, just for having an emotional reaction at all.
The phoenix starts to sing. Don’t suppose it might deign to come and cry on Bill at all, will it?
I don't think the 'real loyalty' Bill's shown Dumbledore has been quite sufficient, thank you. Besides, if everyone's injuries can be healed so quickly, what makes Harry special?
Harry helpfully puts in his own completely fabricated story about how Dumbledore’s reason for trusting Snape was that he pretended to feel bad about the Prophecy.
I like Lupin's 'But he hated James, of course he wouldn't care when James died!' Sort of missing the wood for the trees, there, sport; what with the issue being that he indirectly got James killed himself (not that the narrative doesn't miss a point or two about this, itself, what with the 'Snape had no idea he'd be condemning YOU, Harry, just some random kid. It could have been Fatty!') And revealing our heroes own mindset, here, I think: if you hate someone, then of course you wouldn't care if they died! How could someone possibly believe something as cowardly as 'I dislike So and So but don't want to see them die at my hand'?
Ron says he’ll have a talk to Fred and George about who buys their products.
I hope that this is just another hint that the Twins place money over other people's safety rather than what some essayists have suggested (we need No Slytherins signs in all the shops!) I mean, Draco could have just sent someone else in to buy stuff. And to be honest, I find it a little OOC the Twins would sell to him - what, no threats? Maybe joke powder instead of real?
Molly and Fleur make up while Ginny’s own bitchiness towards Fleur magically disappears just at the moment she might have to be wrong.
Oh, don't worry, it's back next chapter!
Poor guy. The one time his condition could be helpful and it won’t fly.
You know, there's doubt over it and all (Andromeda was implied to be a Slytherin, yeah?) but is there really any question of what house Tonks was in? The condition just
makes you look emoshows you're brave! A prematurely aging guy with an incurable disease is twice asexcitingheroic as a pansy with no scars.Slughorn’s certainly changed his tune about staying away from Hogwarts because it’s dangerous—yeah, only mothers would think Hogwarts was dangerous. Non-Gryffindor Mothers, that is.
I like how the wording changes too, so Slughorn can't blame 'parents' for wanting their kids at home, but it's 'mothers' who can't be expected to think reasonably and assess whether home is much safer. (Which is only 'natural', being that moms are so emotional and all. Thank god Harry's too cool to have one!)
They’ll consult the Board of Governors, who have never mattered whatsoever in the past. But that was when Dumbledore was alive! *sobs*
And Lucius Malfoy's gone, of course. (Sure you want to trust the rest, though? They let Dumbledore leave! They would have let Buckbeak die! They were cowardly and threatened by LM! I like them already.)
Note the Ravenclaw pointing out how we must follow procedure (thinking with your head means you're all about archaic traditions and stuff) and commie stuff about not being too hasty.
Harry remembers how easily Snape had mended Malfoy’s cuts with his wand.
Yeah, he really got off pretty light, all considering! I just feel bad for Harry having to witness the aftermath of such horrific Dark Magic.
(Also note that Harry's many Dramatic Injuries have been cured instantly, but when discussing them we must focus about how brave he was just to get them.)
Fleur was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
I like Fleur here, although I'm wary. (Of course you don’t care how he looks! You’re a woman. It’s your job to look pretty, not the other way around. Again, hate to get all paranoid, but seriously, the text even takes care to note this.
Not to mention, all her and Molly’s fights seem to have been about how tends to and feeds the boys. And of course, Fleur's obligatory ‘I value bravery above all!’)
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(Anonymous) 2006-09-30 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)Of course, since Gryffindors have the happy ability to not give a toss that someone they don't like might end up dead from their little shenanigans, you can't blame them for projecting the same attitude on Slytherins. But I fear
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Although of course, any anvils here pale in comparison to the IoD with the 'Lily was popular, like Ginny!' Wow, really, like the tough but compassionate Ginny? I can't wait to hear more about her, I'm sure she's going to be every bit as compelling and 3D!
(Not to mention the 'Girls worth is determined by how many guys want to fuck them' tone that kept cropping up. Even the would-be fuckers are slimy Slytherins, apparently.)
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(Anonymous) 2006-10-01 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)If Snape/Lily happens I'm so going to fanwank that he was actually in love with James and deep in denial. At least it's canon that he was obsessed with James, whereas there's been no signs of any interest in Lily. I realize that JKR isn't a classic mystery writer and doesn't feel obliged to "play fair", but seriously. SS/LE isn't just a nauseating cliché as such, it has no evidence whatsoever. Pulling it out of a hat in Book 7 would be tantamount to "The suspect had a long-lost twin and he did it". /Christie fan
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Blasphemy, Ginny doesn't sweat. That's for mere mortals.
*People are sobbing and wailing all over the place. Based on Ginny’s reaction to Ollivander’s disappearance I’d guess they’re yelling things like, "But who will give our opening speeches each year?"
I'm hoping their crying is because of them being kids and just having been attacked by DEs, not because DD bit the big one.
*Ginny says if they’d hadn’t had the FF they would have died, but as it was everything just missed them. Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
I suspect some convenient running out of some major ingredient.
*Actually, that’s probably brought up to lay the foundation of whatever Snape/Lily story we get in Book VII: I Called My Love a Mudblood… (sung to the tune of I Gave My Love a Cherry…)
*dreads it and cries* And everybody and their dog commenting on how Snape hated James and couldn't possible feel bad about him dying just convinces me of this all the more. Why else are they ignoring the wonderful, spunky and pretty Lily, if not to be all shocked that, yes, Snape loved her too, like the true Sue she is.
*Slughorn’s certainly changed his tune about staying away from Hogwarts because it’s dangerous—yeah, only mothers would think Hogwarts was dangerous. Non-Gryffindor Mothers, that is.
Fathers on the other hand gladly send their kids into danger. Except evil parents like the Malfoys, that is.
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You especially don't sweat when you're possessed by the dark lord. *Adjusts slipping tin hat*
Fathers on the other hand gladly send their kids into danger. Except evil parents like the Malfoys, that is.
This is one of those situations where, godammit, I would want to be evil: They're stylish, they appreciate a bit of drama and they don't run headlong into danger with a battle cry. Why would anyone want to be good really?
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You know, considering Slughorn is HoH, maybe Draco's well out of that. Imagine the amount of times he'd be called into the office for his badges saying 'Support Severus Snape - the TRUE Head of Slytherin!' And then don't imagine what would happen to him there. Agh, Slughorn's office. Will nobody think of the children? Specifically, Blaise Zabini?
O Fleur. I like you, Fleur. It'd be so nice if Harry was actually able to say to Ginny's snotty little comments 'You're being really unfair, shut your trap' instead of 'lolz, your redhaired sassiness is so amoosing to me, pray go on.' Since he seems to like Fleur too. Oh well. Not like she was in Gryffindor or anything, I guess!
I bet half the fuss Harry's noticing is all the Slytherins weeping and carrying on about the absence of Professor Snape and Draco Malfoy. And I'm sure the only comment they're making about Dumbledore's death is 'it's an ill wind...'
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(Anonymous) 2006-09-30 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)Of course most of the student body is just trying to remember what Dumbledore looked like, so little had they to do with him over the years.
Well, at least he milked those opening speeches for all they were worth. I'm sure a few students still recall the last Sorting feast and the old weirdo who struck a dramatic pose to show off his super badass injury, and then was all, "Nothing to see here".
Suddenly everybody’s talking about the guy who’s saved their lives in the past like they always thought he was a total DE only they figured Dumbledore had some bit of info that said he wasn’t and he just never saw any reason to share it.
On the bright side, if Snape survives, there's hope he'll be cleared of the murder charge. "Dumbledore told me to" is all the defense anyone would ever need.
knowing Remus he’s not going to come out and say that he really likes guys or just doesn’t want it enough to marry her. He would totally go on about his condition and his money.
Yes. All the scene does is make it look like he probably doesn't love her and she's pathetically needy. What was JKR thinking? Why not solve the enthralling mystery of Tonks' bad hair blues by explaining simply that Tonks has been worrying about Remus because they're engaged? I'd've bought Remus/Tonks on those terms (with some slight reservation because Her Perkiness seems more suited to a Weasley).
Slughorn says he thinks he knows Snape because he taught him. Slughorn who’s never noticed Harry cheating his way through class, who has no interest in anyone beyond what they can give him, and who had a favorite in Tom Riddle. I can see why he’d be shocked this one got past his spider senses.
LOL! It's funny, some people are squicked by Slughorn's pedo vibes, and the text is down on his spinelessness and self-indulgence, but hardly anyone dislikes him for being an idiot. And yet the way he rolls over and begs to be duped is beneath contempt. The guy's a professional user, he should have some talent for judging people's potential, and he can't see through Harry Potter?
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But who'll tell the judges what to think now Dumbledore's gone?
hardly anyone dislikes him for being an idiot.
LOL, there's a lot of choice in this universe. Maybe it's first come, first served as far as resenting people's idiocy goes?
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It’s sort of weird, anyway. So Molly’s instantly decided Fleur will dump Bill, and she’s sad? But she hates Fleur. The whole book she wanted it to end.
I guess maybe she feels bad for him, but then this part’s focus seems like it’s supposed to be ‘Molly makes things about her again and focusses on the petty’ not ‘Molly instantly feels bad for dumped!Bill.’
Harry’s all wanting details of Snape’s bad acts to feed his hatred.
This bit seems really odd, too. So Harry, the guy who gutted someone and managed to make himself the victim; needs extra reasons to go after the guy who sold out his parents, was mean to him for six years, and who just killed his mentor? I mean, it’s pretty much a set-up for the next book, I realise, but Harry wanted to Crucio Snape for reading out an embarrassing article, I don’t really see him as the type who needs to focus their hatred on any specific action before it will come.
Oh, Minerva. You could probably fill a book with spells Snape knows and you don’t.
I sort of love her reasoning, too – he was the Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher! (Um, haven’t you been teaching way longer? Especially since Snape was DADA prof for what, nine months? God knows it’s not like you’d be expected to know DADA spells in your role as member of elite force fighting the Dark wizards or anything.)
And isn’t DADA supposed to be a shiny, happy, counter-cursing course anyway? Harry taught DADA, and it’s not like he knows any nasty spells!
And you don’t think that maybe Snape being a DE would have taught him more than doing Dumbledore approved syllabus for teenagers?
she dropped gracefully to the floor, her red hair flashing like a flame…
The reflexes of an all star Seeker!
Sends Tonks a copy of "The Rules"
I’m sure Ginny and Hermione have several battered, underlined copies lying around.
The sad thing is that Tonks/Remus is like the only relationship that’s described positively and still has *gasp* the woman as the aggressor, but since it also has ‘I lost my powers without a man!’, I’m way past caring.
Ginny’s looking at Fleur with narrowed eyes, both hoping that she rejects Bill now that he’s scarred, and looking forward to judging her for it.
Isn’t it pathetic that I was surprised that Ginny got as emotional as her voice trembling when she mentioned Bill earlier? (And typically it trembles on him not looking the same, not the fact he was attacked by Greyback or Malfoy stepping over his body or anything. Not that images or looking like a cool rock god are important to her, or Molly.)
Naturally like everyone else here, she’s much more comfortable preparing to punish the wicked, like ‘frozen’ Fleur (because… Ginny’s reactions so far have been so tender?) than deal with indecent stuff herself.
The Order was indeed losing to the second-string DEs.
Especially since Neville was hurt. A side that’s relying on schoolkids, never mind Neville (only italics can express my contempt) - I mean, the DEs needed Draco, but still...
Oh good lord, have I just stumbled into some sick Hagrid/Harry hurt/comfort?!
It really is indecent!
I never actually cared much about Sirius, or Harry’s feelings, so I’m glad there’s no emo about his death; but furthering the whole comparisons – it’s kinda lame that when the still-young Sirius, the only other non-evil Marauder who made it out of his twenties and the guy Lupin lived with died, Lupin’s instantly ‘He’s gone, move the fuck on!’ and now his ex-employer and high school principal dies at what, 300, and he’s practically weeping. (Maybe Lupin’s thinking ‘Oh, no, our leader, the war effort!’, being a male and thus Considering the Bigger Picture.)
I’m sure the Twins will totally take Ron’s talk into consideration and stop selling dangerous products that make them a lot of money.
I’d laugh if the cash for that powder helped pay for those expensive jackets they’re wearing at the funeral.
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(Anonymous) 2006-10-01 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)It'd be interesting if by the time of OotP, Lupin had got over his rose-tinted memories of their schooldays and realized that now they're both grown up, he actually didn't like Sirius very much. But, yeah, it's strange how the characters have to grieve in exact proportion to the dead person's plot importance. Sirius should still have meant more to Lupin personally than Dumbledore did. (Not to mention that it's hardly a good sign for the R/T to have her whining about their relaaaayshunship when his whole world just came to an end omg!)
(Maybe Lupin’s thinking ‘Oh, no, our leader, the war effort!’, being a male and thus Considering the Bigger Picture.)
Yep, that sounds plausible. And really, he's got a point. Without DD or Snape they're pretty much screwed. Lamest ever deathmatch: the Keystone Eaters vs. the Order of Headless Chickens! Oh well, maybe McGonagall will surprise us and turn out to be able to function independently. I'm not holding my breath, though.
-L
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(Anonymous) 2006-10-02 01:55 am (UTC)(link)I swear on my very name that I will make that into a low-quality icon if it kills me.
last bit, i promise!
I must say, upon his entrance I suddenly feel sympathy for the ‘Feelings are indecent’ school of thought.
Draco worked very hard and got the money, and the hand was always that much more valuable to him because he had earned it. The end.
Heh! At least the ‘Just because I wrote that the scene ends with Draco getting bupkiss doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t also assume he’s totally spoilt and Lucius went back guiltily five minutes later, then bought his son a lollipop’ canon-switch fits in with previous books: it makes the ‘Draco bought his way onto the team – when Lucius says “No racing broom for you” it’s actually a cunning code they use in front of shopkeepers that means “Have seven if you like, you little scamp!” since they’ve been obsessing over the team line-up all summer; rather than the simpler and more sensible: since Draco’s been playing fine for four years “If you make the team, I’ll buy the team brooms” fanwank’ look quite sensible.
Ron starts talking about Dumbledore owing somebody something—ooh, better be careful Ron. A little more of that kind of talk and you’ll be branded one of the Slytherfen!
LOL. Come to us, Ron!
It sort of fits in with the Gryffindor attitude, though, doesn’t it? Like in OotP with the whole ‘ZOMG, risk of expulsion!’ bit. Just because we posture about being willing to die for our cause doesn’t mean we can’t act like the only reason our family were in battle was because they were forced to on someone else’s orders. It’s not like Bill was just passing through or thought it would be a safe haven.
(Although once again, Ron’s the most human person in the room – until Fleur enters – ‘gazing’ down at Bill and willing him to mend. Aw!)
Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
They need to break all the bottles, like they did with the Prophecies and Timeturners. (I also LOL’ed earlier, when they’re all ‘We can’t make more, it takes SIX months!’ Wow, that does sound like a waste of time, just to make something potentially life saving. It’s not like we didn’t spend the same time making Polyjuice with less motive!)
The Fat Lady doesn’t ask for a password now the Dumbledore’s dead. What’s the point in passwords any more? Or living, really.
Isn’t the Fat Lady, like, a million years old, anyway? (I know it's mentioned some of the portraits were 500 yrs+.) You’d think she wouldn’t get attached to one teacher in particular since she’s probably seen hundreds; and you know, being a portrait and all. But of course, Dumbledore is Teh Speshul. I’m surprised the armour doesn't break down and weep oil.)
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I just had to say that.
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Dude. A girl who can change her appearance to anything she wants. That's not gay, that's asexual. WTF, mate.
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(Anonymous) 2006-10-04 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
Tonks: Let's get married.
Lupin: Don't you want to wait and get to know me?
Tonks: Why, does it get better?
*Harry doesn’t care who RAB is, and doubts he’ll ever feel curious again. Why do I feel like I’m having a déjà vu here? Oh yeah, cause this is Harry’s standard emo-reaction to the end of many books: was it only [insert random amount of time] since [something more pleasant] was happening? He didn’t care about [thing he always cares about] now. He never would care about [thing he cares about a lot] again.
When was Harry ever curious? He knows 20 people who knew his mother but all he finds out about her is her seksi green eyes and her awesomity.
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