ext_57902 ([identity profile] jollityfarm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] deathtocapslock2005-10-04 12:34 pm

A bit late, but...

Come on! This one's got it all :)

*Harry spends the rest of the holidays thinking about Draco. I can see why the Harry/Draco shippers on my flist were so happy.

*Now, I previously thought that the reason why Voldemort wouldn't have a sixteen year old in the Death Eaters was because they wouldn't be able to Apparate to his side when called. But I suppose events in this book have shown that sixteen year olds are capable of being taught that skill. Although they wouldn't be able to leave Hogwarts under normal circumstances, so...

*The fact that Harry turns out to be right about all his suspicions involving Draco somehow depletes the drama considerably. Of course, there's some suggestion that he might be wrong...but he's not. So, what's the point, really? I would be hardly be surprised if it turned out that Professor Snape really was just as Harry had thought all along. Hey, the book seems to be saying - trust in your heart, not your mind! First impressions are never wrong if you're pure of heart!

*Oh Harry, don't encourage all this "Phlegm" stuff. Ginny'll start thinking she's funny and she'll do it all the time. I hope Harry meets Gabrielle and is bowled over by her beauty, although she's probably still too young for him. I imagine book seven will bring a small cluster of Harry/Gabrielle shippers, actually. Imagine - it's several years in the future and Harry is married to Ginny, but wondering "Is this all there is?" Suddenly, there's a flurry of interest - guess who's back? Etc etc. I hope to see a lot of Harry-cheating-on-Ginny fics following book seven. Oh sure, he wants a stable home life - but he's a romantic! An adventurer! We can't expect him to play devoted husband when around the corner might well be TEH WUN TWOO WUV of his life!! But I digress.

*I've seen some truly hideous bridesmaid dresses. Truly ghastly. And I've also heard of brides making their one fat cousin starve until she's the same size as all the other bridesmaids so they'll all match. The fact that Fleur thinks Ginny would look like shit in pink and is actively seeking to avoid this suggests that she actually doesn't want her future sister-in-law to hate her guts. Imagine if Mrs. Weasley could dress the bridesmaids - they'd probably look like one of those net bath puff things, in maroon and vomit taffeta. Mrs. Weasley might be a good cook, but she's got no sense of style.

*Ginny doesn't prevent Harry from being kissed goodbye by Fleur, but trips up Ron so he avoids it *makes note of Ginny/Ron subtext, har har*. Ron so pathetic :(

*"Does anyone really know what You-Know-Who would or wouldn't do?" Well, obviously you do, Harry. You so smrt.

*Oh Harry, you lie so much. You love the sensation of standing in a very bright spotlight. That's why you never ask anyone for help when you're off on an adventure. That's why you were after that Prefecting position. That's why you're delighted about being Quidditch captain. That's why you'd have been pissed off about having to share the prophecy with Neville, and are glad that he doesn't matter after all. If you lost all this, you'd be absolutely devastated. So stop complaining.

*Ginny doesn't hang around with "the Trio" at school? Could have fooled me.

*A thought: how long do toads live? Because Neville's had that creature for five years now, and I'm not sure they would normally live that long. I must Google for this, it may spawn plot-tadpoles.

*Wrackspurts...I think I get those :/ My brain goes a bit fuzzy at times.

*Malfoy is doing rude hand gestures in his compartment? Malfoy is wanking in his compartment? If this is "the usual", one can only wonder at Ron's watching it.

*Poor Marietta and her face :( *smacks Harry for finding it funny*

*Blaise Zabini! Arising from the waves like Aphrodite, if Aphrodite looked like that model, Tyson Beckford, only with bitchface. Anyway, a joy to see him, really (if I start the fic I've got a-brewing, he's going to be in there somewhere)

*Ginny's measured wit strikes again! Ooh, burn! I bet Blaise was really distraught by being called a poser. It's not as if he could knock her flying with one carefully-raised eyebrow or anything. Also, Ginny got in on her bat-bogey hex. Can she actually do anything else? Is there anything else? Or does she just make snot fly about everywhere? We all know Sluggy likes his gingers, of course. Can't help thinking she may be considered for possible alternative talents.

*Haha, now Harry is eyeing up Blaise. He's obviously got a thing for the bad boys :)

*Zacharias Smith is NOT AN IDIOT :( *hates on Ginny*

*Oh yes, because Harry and Neville weren't invited on the strength of their parents' fame AT ALL. Not at all.

*Harry wants to spy on Draco doing his rude hand gestures :) How many fics have involved this kind of thing? Millions, right?

*Oh Harry. Hiding under your cloak, watching Draco being stroked by Pansy. You're not jealous at all, right?

*I like the fact that Blaise called Ginny a blood-traitor. Not for the name itself, but because this might now stop people referring to the pureblood agenda as "racism". I'm sorry, but it just makes me shudder with pedantic disgust.

*Haha, Blaise is obviously not big on the whole Death Eating thing. I bet you he's one of those Slytherins that thought "Fuck Voldemort, what about me? What's in it for me, that's what I want to know?" Blaise Zabini for Dark Lord!

*Oh, Pansy wanted Draco to hold her hand! <3 They are so cute together X)

*Stamp! There you go, Harry, that's the kind of thing you'd have done last year. That's what it's like. Have fun being outraged at being treated like that.

[identity profile] shadefell.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
What, exactly, is the "bat-bogey hex"? Because despite it being the only thing she knows how to do, it's not described consistantly at all. Is it bats taht attack? Is it bats that fling burgers? Does the face break out in bat-winged boils? I have no idea what it does, other than have a retarded name.

[identity profile] playscape.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to know this as well. It's mentioned so many times, and WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS. Ginny's so good, she's going to wind up defeating Voldemort with her Bat Bogey Hex!
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, bogey=booger, so possibly it makes hardened bits of mucous fly out of the victims nose and grow wings, or else perhaps bats made out of hardened mucous from someone's nose with wings appear and attack the person. Perhaps they come out of her own nose and she always has enough in there for it, and it clears her sinuses as well as attacks the person, which is why Slughorn thinks it's so great.

Perhaps it's never described because if we actually saw it we'd see that it not only has a retarded name, but it's a retarded curse that you'd usually associate with some creepy girl with dirty underwear nobody would want to go near.

[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginny really is a relation of the Twins. So far her hilarious jokes have been: phlegm, bogeys, and fake-vomiting at Fleur. I'm surprised we didn't have her inventing U KNOW POO herself.

[identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It probably comes out and grows from the victims nose, so that it can be doubly humiliating. Whatever were you thinking having it from Ginny's nose, anyway? Ginny doesn't have any snot! She farts roses!

[identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
When my daughter was a toddler, when she got in a temper, she'd blow mucus out of her nose like that. Big yukky streams. She thought it was a marvellous way to "get even" with me for things like putting her in her room for a nap. Trouble was, all she really accomplished was covering herself in snot. But she was three. She grew out of it.

[identity profile] guza.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I just always assumed that it made big, winged balls of snot shoot out of her wand and fly repeatdely into the face of whoever it is that asked her a question offended her gravely. What a charming girl.

I feel very attention-whorey posting this again, but it explains the way I always imagined it quite well.

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Obviously, Malfoy just isn't cool enough to take it like a man. And, of course, you can substitute him with Zacharias. Everyone knows that all tall skinny blond boys are evil, pale in comparison to the wonder that is Ginevra Weasley and deserve everything they get thrown at them, the evil cowards.

[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Also, it was evil last year of people not to ask questions about what they read in the papers but merely accept it on face-value; and now it's totally annoying and jerky of them to be curious too. (And in the same book as Zacharias is getting hexed for asking about the DoM, Romilda is getting criticised for being shallow enough to care about H/G - how dare she not respect their privacy when they make out in front of hundreds of people?! - when she could be curious about Dementors and the State of the World. To which she'd then get hexed, perhaps. Basically everyone but Harry and Ginny sucks, mkay?)

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[identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well a "bogey" can either be dried mucus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucus) (unlike phlegm, which is a type of moist mucus), or it can mean something distinctly dark, shadowy and creepy, like the Bogeyman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogeyman).

Since adults actually seem impressed with this hex of Ginny's, I'd go for the latter meaning, and suggest that the bat-bogey hex is an simulacrum of one of the victim's most irrational fears combined with a batlike demeanor or form. A bit like a mini-boggart, perhaps?

[identity profile] romeoambiences.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ginny is definitely mean-spirited enough for this to be the case...er...I meant cool and justified to use such an awesome hex on the evil blondes, Draco and Zach.


[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
That would almost be like Dark Magic, though, and we all know the Gryffindor's attitude towards that! ;) Of course, maybe if she was using it as a counter-hex?...

(Anonymous) 2006-10-19 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure Ron said in OotP that Malfoy had been attacked by great flapping balls of snot or something...I need to find the quote.

[identity profile] lynkemma.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope to see a lot of Harry-cheating-on-Ginny fics following book seven. Oh sure, he wants a stable home life - but he's a romantic! An adventurer! We can't expect him to play devoted husband when around the corner might well be TEH WUN TWOO WUV of his life!!

Honestly, Harry doesn't strike me as a very devout and loyal personality type - I mean, he forgets Sirius immediately after the obligatory angsting. He's just a natural cheater, on so many levels.

Of course, you can't blame him; sooner or later he'll wake up to the realisation that he's married to a miniature Molly Weasley.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps he'll have died inside by then.

Of course, I think James was obviously somebody who was going to continue to go after other women while he was married too, so...

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Not to mention that Harry is used to have everything served on aa silver plate, as soon as he notices that a relationship demands some effort from him as well as Ginny, he'll be out looking for true love again. Oh, sure, right now Ginny makes sure that dating her will be with no sacrifices whatsoever on Harry's part, but honestly, how long will she (or anyone) be able to keep THAT up?

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more tomorrow morning, kay?

[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginny doesn't prevent Harry from being kissed goodbye by Fleur

Ginny naturally never does anything that might lower her in Harry's eyes, being The Ideal Girl and all. And him being such a Mondo Prick and all, he naturally finds all her assholishness funny, since it matches his own, and she, being so Perfect, always picks people it amuses him to see mocked. Like his mates. Aren't they a pair of charmers? OMG OTP!11 <3

Ginny doesn't hang around with "the Trio" at school? Could have fooled me.

She's off having her own life apparently purely in the service of making him jealous, with her ever so many friends that never come up. Much like Lily's. I guess they're forced to hang around with icky fellow girls and they're embarrassed about it.

Ginny's measured wit strikes again! Ooh, burn! I bet Blaise was really distraught by being called a poser.

Let's face it, Ginny's the expert on posing.

Oh, Pansy wanted Draco to hold her hand! <3 They are so cute together X)

I know! I love Pansy/Draco, it's the one canon ship that doesn't make bile rise in my throat.

Re: more tomorrow morning, kay?

[identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginny naturally never does anything that might lower her in Harry's eyes, being The Ideal Girl and all. And him being such a Mondo Prick and all, he naturally finds all her assholishness funny, since it matches his own, and she, being so Perfect, always picks people it amuses him to see mocked. Like his mates. Aren't they a pair of charmers? OMG OTP!11 <3

And who is Ron to think that he should get the same treatment from Fleur as Harry gets, anyway? Know your place, Sidekick! Only Harry deserves special treatment! and you know, if you seek that too, he's special treatment won't be so special anymore, now, will it? Ginny better put him to his place before THAT happens!!!
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Re: more tomorrow morning, kay?

[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginny letting Harry get kissed by Fleur is also proof that she's so over him. Hermione might not be able to hide her true emotions, but Ginny is all over hers.

Plus one of the things Harry and Ginny always bond over is how stupid everyone else is, so tripping Ron gives them something to talk about later. "Ginny, why did you trip Ron?" "Well, I thought someone should." "You little minx!"

OMG, I can so see Harry in the future. He's totally going to have an affair with Fleur's sister because she's the younger version of Ginny, crushing on him in her cute little girl way, then becoming beautiful and forgetting about him...

She's off having her own life apparently purely in the service of making him jealous, with her ever so many friends that never come up. Much like Lily's. I guess they're forced to hang around with icky fellow girls and they're embarrassed about it.

Yeah, she's really popular. Really. Even though you only ever see her with our guys or with a boy attached to her face she's really popular. You just can't expect Harry to keep track of her many friends. After all, he's only just been able to name all five boys from Slytehrin that he's hated with such a passion for 6 years. Baby steps.


Let's face it, Ginny's the expert on posing.

The girl's created her own wind-machine charm just for dramatic entrances.

[identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com 2005-10-04 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I must Google for this, it may spawn plot-tadpoles.

Wouldn't it be great if Trevor was long dead, and Neville had got himself a new toad, only Harry has been too self-absorbed to notice?

[identity profile] guza.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
That would be hillarious in a sad way.

But, Harry is The Chosen One and a Marked Man! You can't expect him to care about his friends that much.

By the way:

"The lifespan of a TOAD is generally between 4 and 15 years. However, the Common (European) TOAD (Trevor, I assume is one of these) seems to live up to 40 years!" [/ hermione]

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[identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh without a doubt, the general fandom consensus (well the tiny corner i stick in) is that Voldemort did Lily a huge favor doing the both of them in when he did. In fact, I'd be surprised if James hadn't already found something else to keep busy with while she was pregnant--he really did reek of sleaze that way.

[identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Harry, you lie so much. You love the sensation of standing in a very bright spotlight. That's why you never ask anyone for help when you're off on an adventure. That's why you were after that Prefecting position. That's why you're delighted about being Quidditch captain. That's why you'd have been pissed off about having to share the prophecy with Neville, and are glad that he doesn't matter after all. If you lost all this, you'd be absolutely devastated. So stop complaining.

Harry's condescending little rumination concerning Neville and the Prophecy really worked my nerve. All that "Would Neville's mother have died to save him???" crap, as if Lily is THE ONLY MUM who ever gave a shit about her kid. And why should Alice love Neville less just because she (barely!) survived and Lily didn't?

There's a Love=Death equation happening here that's a bit fucked-up; if someone loves Harry they should be prepared to die for him, like Lily and (in a sense) Sirius did. Megalomania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania)'s a bitch, eh Potter?

Speaking of dying...Neville's new wand is not only one of the last wands Ollivander sold, but it has a unicorn hair at its core. Didn't Cedric Diggory's wand also have a unicorn hair inside it? Oh dear...

[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
And why should Alice love Neville less just because she (barely!) survived and Lily didn't?

Because Neville was plump?
Heh, dunno. Perhaps Alice wasn't as beautiful, kind and sassy as Lily. And of course, most importantly, brave.
And naturally baby!Neville couldn't have been as loveable as baby!Harry, even to his mum.

if someone loves Harry they should be prepared to die for him

Well, of course! If they don't, they can only prove their devotion by making him the centre of their lives, which is a poor sort of substitute.
Luckily everyone Harry knows appears ready, willing and happy to make the ultimate sacrifice in order that he might live to annoy for another day.

Didn't Cedric Diggory's wand also have a unicorn hair inside it?

Always the innocent are the first... Muhahaha! ;)

[identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that Harry turns out to be right about all his suspicions involving Draco somehow depletes the drama considerably.

Yeah, I'm torn on this issue. I like that Harry was right about Draco having more important things to do (OMG, me and Harry had the same prediction! *kills self*) but I don't like the whole 'Oh, if only someone had listened to Harry, he's so oppressed, his instincts are always right' bit.

Oh Harry, don't encourage all this "Phlegm" stuff. Ginny'll start thinking she's funny and she'll do it all the time.

I know! Bad enough he's paying Fred and George to be irritating.
It's like a two year old swearing - if you laugh, they'll just do it more!

Oh sure, he wants a stable home life - but he's a romantic!

Listen to your heart, Harry! Don't sell out to The Man and obey all those petty bureaucratic rules and restrictions like your wedding vows! You're a rebel!

The fact that Fleur thinks Ginny would look like shit in pink and is actively seeking to avoid this suggests that she actually doesn't want her future sister-in-law to hate her guts.

No, it's Fleur's evil in ignoring Ginny's powers of Sueness. She'd look good in everything!
But yeah, agreed. Mind you, if I were Fleur, I wouldn't be having Ginny as my bridesmaid at all, and fuck family and politeness.

Mrs. Weasley might be a good cook, but she's got no sense of style.

I guess she doesn't need one, since she's plump and her only role is mothering and cooking for the menfolk...

*makes note of Ginny/Ron subtext, har har*

LOL. The only combination in OBHWF I could get behind! (Doesn't she comment on his experience later? And make incest aspersions? Oo-er. ;)

Oh Harry, you lie so much. You love the sensation of standing in a very bright spotlight. If you lost all this, you'd be absolutely devastated. So stop complaining.

THANK YOU. If I knew how to make the thumbs up sign, I'd be doing it now. Word x100000.

Poor Marietta and her face :( *smacks Harry for finding it funny*

Acne, like fatness, is something that happens only to the deserving (quite literally with Marietta, I guess) so it's okay to laugh at it. Unlike those superficial Slytherins who mock the way people look. They're just being jerks. And ugly ones!
Anyway, thank god Hermione's left the spell on for over, what, six months? And that Harry's still amused by this. Keep twisting the knife, guys! What would we do without someone's misery to exalt in?

Ginny's measured wit strikes again! Ooh, burn!

Yeah, it kinda weakens the whole fandom 'OMG Draco is so childish and unfunny, even in the WW'. No, really, it's just that everyone has a dumb-ass sense of humour. Harry does his after school special style comebacks ('Warrington's aim is so bad, I'd be worried if he were aiming next to me!' Oh, LOL, u so funny!) and calls people 'git', Draco has 'Potty and the Weasel', Hermione laughs at dick jokes, Ginny's just a bitch, and the less said about the Twins, the better.

Can't help thinking she may be considered for possible alternative talents.

If you're popular with menfolk, it's only because they with their natural superiority and intellect sense your inner goodness. Yup. So put out and win their love!

Oh yes, because Harry and Neville weren't invited on the strength of their parents' fame AT ALL. Not at all.

That's different. It's not judging people on their blood, it's just honouring your parents sacrifices and inheriting their good qualities. Or something.

I'm sorry, but it just makes me shudder with pedantic disgust.

Me too. Even when Rowling does it.

That's what it's like. Have fun being outraged at being treated like that.

Really. (Although Harry would also have had his friends assisting. He's brave like that.)
And ya gotta love Harry's 'I hope everyone thinks I was battling evil (not that I care about glory or what people think.) I wish I had a chance to go at Malfoy one on one.' Um, Harry, you did. And you got served. Suck it up.

[identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com 2005-10-05 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
(Although Harry would also have had his friends assisting. He's brave like that.)

It's OK for Harry, though, because he's brave. Draco's a coward, so he shouldn't have done that. Actually, I don't know what he should do not to be a coward, because it's something that seems to follow him everywhere he goes...

If you're popular with menfolk, it's only because they with their natural superiority and intellect sense your inner goodness. Yup. So put out and win their love!

And of course, your inner goodness is matched by your outer beauty. But it's still the goodness they fall for. At least if they're good themselves (those Slytherins are probably only attracted by the outer beauty, cursing that they have no pretty girls in their own house, failing to understand that that's because the girls of their own house aren't good.)

Oh Harry, don't encourage all this "Phlegm" stuff. Ginny'll start thinking she's funny and she'll do it all the time.

It's too late, Slinkhard and jollityfarm.

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