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HBP Chapter Six



*Ginny’s good at Quidditch. Thus the last bit of important information falls into place. Now Voldemort can be defeated.

*ETA: And remember, in this world being good at Quidditch in high school pretty much translates into a major professional career (if it isn't already) so yay!

*But first, a short quiz. Harry and Hermione play Quidditch against Ron and Ginny. Hermione is dreadful but Ginny is good. How does this make them reasonably well matched?

a)Harry is four times as good as Hermione, but Ron is twice as good as Harry.
b)Ginny is ten percent better than Hermione, but twenty percent as good as Ron.
c)Ron is twice as good as Hermione but Ginny is three times better than Ron.
d)Ginny is Harry’s ideal girl.

*If I were Hermione they’d find me stumbling down the road knocking on Muggle neighbor doors asking if they had teenagers and if so could I please watch TV with them?

*ETA: Sorry, that's probably more what I would do as a Muggleborn. If I were Hermione I'd probably zap the Muggle owners to think they wanted to watch whatever I wanted to watch on TV.

*What does Remus Lupin do to his clothes that they’re always more worn and patched than ever? Especially when he can fix his clothes with magic? Is he riding the rails as a hobo? Is he undercover as a clown? I think the end of the series will reveal that as a child Lupin was bitten not only by Fenrir Greyback but Raggedy Andy as well.

*ETA: Perhaps he's just trying to look bad so Tonks will get the message and leave him alone.

*Remus is also gaunt. You’d think he’d be gaining weight what with all the eating people.:-D

*ETA: Tonks likes them emo.

*Regulus lived a few days after deserting the DEs. Go Regulus! Sprinkle that name around! ETA: How could I have doubted that Harry wouldn't identify with this kid immediately? Sure his polyjuice wouldn't be golden like Harry's, but it's obviously got more bravery than, say, Crabbe's does. Probably it tastes like lukewarm, flat Doctor Pepper or something.

*Bill is being “plied with wine” by Fleur. Personally, to me that phrase has always suggested softening someone up so you can have your way with them, usually a man trying to get a woman drunk. I would expect Harry’s fiancé to maybe have to do that but not Bill’s.

*ETA: But then, it's in keeping with the whole theory of sexual attraction in this book so it must be on purpose. All girls have to drug or trick their menfolk in some way to get them to want to have sex with them. Really, that's totally normal.

*Florian Fortescue’s been kidnapped—omg, who’s going to give Harry free ice cream? You’d think giving The Chosen One free ice cream would get you some protection, but no. (Though later when we see what "protection" means in this world, maybe Florian did get it and this was the natural result.)

*ETA: Anybody know what happened to this guy? Because no more ice cream remains one of the top 10 horrors of "the war" by the end of the book.

*Ollivander’s gone too. "The wand maker?” asks startled Ginny. "No, the Mexican jumping bean farmer," replies Arthur. Well, no, he doesn’t say that, but that’s what somebody would have said if Ron asked such a question.

*Oh, I see. Ginny’s startled because WHAT’LL PEOPLE DO FOR WANDS?? Glad she’s got her priorities straight, there.

*Remus reveals other people are capable of making wooden sticks too. You know, this is kind of indicative of the way this world works—realistically, there would be lots of wand-makers and different people would favor different makers. Each would have his own style and strength and there would be healthy competition. In HP, of course, we can’t have that. Ollivander must be The Chosen One of wand makers and once he’s gone wands will never be the same again.

*ETA: Ollivander got to be the Chosen One by agreeing to deliver the total crap re-interpretation of wand theory central to DH. The other wandmakers pointed out that it sucked so they got scrapped.

*Harry receives a note saying he’s now Quidditch Captain. I picture the note including a little doodle of Dumbledore with big, sad, hopeful eyes and a single tear—are we okay about the Prefect position now, lad? I only did it cause I thought it was for the best! XOXO

*ETA: I never played sports--do schools usually appoint the captain? It seems like something you'd vote on or something.

*Speaking of priorities—HARRY GETS TO USE THE SPECIAL BATHROOM NOW! Hogwarts seems to have a lot in common with corporate culture of the early 1960s. People in movies and plays of that time are always trying to get a key to the executive washroom. Poor [livejournal.com profile] mike_smith was so excited about the prospect of this bathroom, and it never comes up once in the book after this.

*Ron’s supportive and gracious about Harry being Quidditch captain. Naturally Harry does not compare this to his own behavior last year when Ron was made Prefect. Obviously not, since Ron was the one overturning the natural order of things by being promoted. ETA: As he will continue to do in the next book by bitching at Harry!

*Ron later goes wide-eyed over Harry’s bag o’gold, which Bill took out for him. Um, I know Harry has far too much noblesse oblige an easy-going nature to ask, but when did the Weasleys get full access to his bank account? My own mother doesn’t know my PIN number but it seems like anybody can make withdrawals on Harry’s account. Maybe it "makes things easier" and Harry should "trust Bill," but would it have killed Bill to, you know, explain this beforehand and ask? Maybe have Harry fill out the bank slip? Does he not need any form of ID? Bill does ROB GRAVES for a living, iirc.

*ETA: Seriously, why do they need to dramatically break into Gringott's in the next book? They could have just showed up and said their little brother was a friend of Bellatrix's.

*Ginny mimes throwing up when Fleur strokes Bill’s nose and Harry finds this so hilarious he almost chokes into his cereal. Good thing Ginny didn’t say Bill and Fleur were sittin’ in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g. Harry might actually have died laughing.

*ETA: Well, we know Ginny won't be doing any such nonsense. Her main job after finally snagging Harry is unobtrusively withdrawing when she's not needed.

*Yeah, it’s tough being the Weasleys, what with the chauffer and the company car. They’re so down to earth.

*Harry isn’t sure the Ministry knows about his invisibility cloak. Of course not. Dumbledore would totally keep that information to himself while invading Harry’s privacy in plenty of other ways. It’s exactly his style of keeping in control.

*Harry’s on Top-Grade Security Status. Top Grade apparently meaning you’re guarded by the big dumb ex-gamekeeper/schoolteacher who likes a drink or two. Excellent. ETA: What's Middle-Grade Security Status? Oh, I guess that would be Hedwig: stuck in a cage and used for target practice. Which is still several notches above the Grangers: Knocked in the head with a shovel and given a case of Gilligan's Island-amnesia, then pointed in the general direction of Australia.

*And Hagrid's wearing a beaver skin coat in August. I suspect the coat is the real security. It will keep people away for a considerable radius.

*Dumbledore once again overrides anything so silly as a professional agency by deciding how Harry will be guarded on a whim. Who needs any sort of governing structure in place when you can just rely on the Very Wise Man? ETA: Even if he's dead?

*Normally you’d think the vendor calling Ginny’s neck pretty would be just a sales pitch, but we’ll soon see that it’s no sales pitch. It’s true! Her neck is just that pretty! To match the rest of her!

*Mr Weasley apparently can’t do anything like his job when he’s not on duty. Why am I not surprised that *this* would be the one way he’d try to be by the books?

*Hermione wants new dress robes…why, I’m not sure. Isn’t that like buying a new prom dress?

*Arthur says it doesn’t make sense for them all to go to Madam Malkin’s. Um, Arthur? It actually does make sense. You’ve got one security guard and are probably expected to be sticking together. As if to point this out, Harry immediately notices other shoppers sticking together in tight knit groups. Cowards.

*And then, when we get to the shop, Hagrid stays outside anyway. Top Grade Security. In tip-top Grade Security the security guard sits in the car while Harry runs into the bakery and brings him back coffee and a bear claw.

*Draco asks his mother if she’s noticed he’s not a child anymore. Harry certainly notices as he checks out Draco’s handsome dark green robes. Might want to pick up some plying wine there, Ginny.

*Unfortunately, his author doesn't seem to have noticed. Next year Draco will be less effectual than he was in PS.

*I hadn’t noticed this before, but Draco is already yelling about Malkin’s sticking him with pins before the one in his arm. Coward.

*I guess his seeing Harry staring at him in the mirror also counts as foreshadowing of the later bathroom fight. What’s great is it’s also the cliché moment from Fatal Attraction.

*Despite his not being a child anymore, Draco announces that if his mother smells something bad it’s because a Mudblood just walked in. Maybe when the robes are properly fitted Draco can shop for some grown up insults he can use without embarrassing himself.

*Okay, he redeems himself slightly by pointing out Hermione’s black eye and offering to send flowers to whoever did it.

*Madam Malkin scolds Draco. I guess she doesn’t realize he’s the Big Bad Embodiment of Evil that Everyone Is Afraid to Challenge. He just cleverly disguises himself as an gawky idiot of a teenager.

*Harry’s insults aren’t too sharp either, but at the moment I’d say Harry’s insulting at the 16-year-old level while Draco hovers around a young twelve.

*Yes, the symbolism of Draco tripping over his robes is heavy-handed, but who could resist it?

*ETA: Especially when the solution to Draco's life is apparently to let his mum take over for him.

*So does Draco know about Harry and Sirius? What does he know about Sirius? Narcissa calls him "Dear Sirius" referring to them, it seems, not Harry. (I mean, she’s not saying Harry will be reunited with *his* dear Sirius, but just dear Sirius, as in their cousin.)

*Draco and Narcissa decide to go to another store. Wait, there are other stores? But I’m sure Madam Malkin is The Chosen Dressmaker.

*When he gets outside, Harry asks Hagrid if he saw the Malfoys. You know, the family working for the guy trying to kill Harry who killed Sirius and who just almost got into a fight with Harry in the store while you were supposed to be protecting him? Oh, of course Hagrid the security guard wouldn’t know that.

*Anyway, he says they wouldn’t dare make trouble in the middle of Diagon Alley, the place where everyone else has been abducted. Which is why you ought to have followed Harry into the store, genius.

*Actually, I’m being kind of hard on Hagrid. He would have been no match for Narcissa and probably just made things worse. Then Harry would have to be cheering him up all day or something. For proof, note how nobody manages to "disabuse Hagrid of this comfortable notion" even though he’s the one who’s supposed to be protecting them.

*The twins’ store is packed, and a lot of people seem to actually be buying stuff like wands that turn into rubber chickens. I weep for the Wizarding World. I really do.

*Seriously, remember that this is what everybody has turned into in the epilogue. Thirty-something's whose idea of fun is a wand that turns into a rubber chicken.

*Hermione tells us the daydream charms are extraordinary magic. Why, I’m not sure. It’s just convenient that Fred and George are the only people in the entire Wizarding World who seem to ever create these obvious magical things. They are the Chosen Magic Makers, which is why they’ll be driving the Pretender out of business soon enough.

*ETA: Hermione probably bought some to study for her great Memory Charm That's Not A Memory Charm of next year.

*Fred and George still have bad but expensive taste in clothing, an attribute that will be transferred to the Malfoys in fandom, even though we just had a scene telling us Draco’s own robes were handsome. It’s one of those rare times when Rowling and her most devoted followers have a little conflict. She’s more suggesting it’s funny that Fred and George are tacky. But when you’re mostly writing romance, you’d rather your favorite characters be the ones with good breeding and nice clothes and that particular joke be on the Malfoys.

*I’m so glad Fred and George’s store also includes Muggle stuff so people can mock it. They probably think Muggles actually use this stuff a lot, trying to emulate the high culture of wizards.

*George can’t believe how many people at the Ministry can’t do a decent shield charm. Funny, I can believe it. Nobody can do anything except for people Harry’s coincidentally become close with over the years, and even they can’t be over 19.

*Fred and George then take Harry into the backroom where they sell items for thieves. Ironically, on the way into this room one of them threatens a small boy with physical violence if he pockets anything. ::sniff:: They really have grown up.

*Fred and George are also referred to as “Mr and Mr Weasley” by their staff. Amazingly, Harry refrains from seeing this as pretentious or even considering that Fred and George could be turning into The Man. ETA: Just as he and his friends will remain the plucky outsider underdogs when they're running the entire nation between themselves.

*Have Fred and George paid Harry back for his loan? Seems like they’d have to have by now but I don’t remember. They’re giving him free stuff, but frankly I’m shocked they haven’t yet asked him for a personal endorsement of their store. That’ll probably come later.

*The twins take Hermione and Ginny to the girlie potions, where they back off warily from the silly giggling girls. They prefer to plot their man traps in dignified hisses and whispers.

*And of course naturally the love potions would all be for girls. What boy would ever want to give a girl a potion to make her want to have sex with him?

*Hmmm. The love potions depend on the weight of the boy and the attractiveness of the girl. I’m thinking tranquilizer darts are the way to go, myself. The ugly girl can bag her prey from a distance, have time to catch up to him (especially if she’s heavy and can’t run fast), mount him and run away pregnant before the guy wakes up.

*Seriously, I’m beginning to develop a theory that magic causes a seriously decreased heterosexual sex drive in male wizards. I guess the reason the steps to the girl’s room in Gryffindor Tower don’t let boys up isn’t because boys are randy and want sex but because the girls are constantly doping them up to force them into servicing their insatiable female libido!

*Fred and George discuss how popular Ginny is. This would be the time for somebody besides Ginny to mime vomiting.

*Ginny announces that Dean is a boy and Michael is a sore loser so she dumped him. I hope Fred and George rattle off a list of other boys who are interested in Ginny so she can tell us why she rejects them. (Btw, keeping track, that’s two more random people Ginny has mentioned, one neutrally, one negatively.)

*Fred and George suggest Ginny’s moving through boyfriends "a bit fast" (two in a year—whoa) so that we can be subjected to Mary Sue’s Rant of Awesome Girl Power. Fred and George will not be the first boys in her family to be roped into this role.

*ETA: You do have to wonder if Harry caught flack for this when he was appointed Head of Aurors at 26 (and Head of Everything at let's say...30). I mean, imagine the scandal of people discovering his wife went out with this many people before finding her true adolescent love. Luckily she had Hermione to testify that she really was into Harry all that time.

*Ginny sure is angry at Fred and George for acting out their stereotypical boy roles. Because she’s totally not on board with the clichéd gender roles that are the bedrock of the Weasley family. Nope, her character’s a regular black sheep amongst the wooly rams. Uh-huh. Her looking a lot like Molly when she scolds them does not in any way suggest that Ginny’s just like her mother underneath.

*Harry said nothing. He was thinking too hard. The joke is too easy.

*Harry decides to follow to see where Malfoy’s going. Ooh! I’ve read this one. Harry’s going to follow Malfoy to a brothel where Malfoy has sex with a pretty rent boy with black hair and blue eyes while Harry gets turned on and touches himself under his invisibility cloak.

*Oh. Wrong story. *shuts off porn music* What happens is, Harry, Ron and Hermione get under the cloak and waltz past Hagrid’s Top Grade Security.

*It’s difficult hiding all three of them under the cloak these days. Frankly, I’m surprised they can do it at all.

*Knockturn Alley is deserted because it’s a giveaway to be seen buying "dark" magical items. Or maybe because with Fred and George’s back room, you can buy far more dangerous weapons in Diagon Alley.

*ETA: Does anybody remember this alleged bias against Dark Wizards next year? The year when the government is obviously taken over by the magical Nazis and nobody notices?

*Hee—Draco talks with his hands. I thought Maya just made that up!

*Now I’m totally trying to imagine Tom Felton miming his whole Cabinet plan so Harry can watch through the window in the movie. Or better yet, I want him to act out his entire role in the series so far, incorporating the classic "stuck in an invisible box" and "walking in a heavy wind" tricks.

*B&B sells sinister objects. Like a trick vanishing cabinet. As opposed to the totally not sinister powder that cloaks everything in darkness.

*So what’s Borgin supposed to be giving his full attention, since it’s Draco who’s going to be fixing the cabinet? Is he just sending instructions or something? LOL-now I’m picturing Draco on hold to B&B Tech Support. Have you tried rebooting the cabinet?

*So was Draco supposed to have shown Borgin a Dark Mark or what? Is all that nonsense about his arm supposed to be correct? Because it doesn't actually make much sense at all and was pretty poor deduction on Harry's part. I'm going to decide he just showed Borgin a note from Voldemort.

*Ron and Hermione bicker all the way back to Diagon Alley. Knowing what bickering symbolizes, Harry’s lucky they don’t start having sex right there under the cloak.

*Mrs Weasley and Hagrid have clearly noticed their absence. Well-done G-Man Hagrid. How long after Mrs Weasley pointed it out did you notice their absence?



Idiot Picture
Where to start?

Idiot World
We end the scene with our Top Grade Security Man being fooled by the oldest trick in the Child’s Book of Sneaking. And did you know Harry totally invented shield charms?

Informed Attributes
Miming throwing up! Oh dear—it’s no wonder Harry almost spits out his cornflakes! Bwahahaha!

Misdirected Answering
Having just sat through an entire chapter of catching up with the Weasleys, we now have to endure a visit to the Twins’ store and not only hear how their business is going but the details of Ginny’s boring teenaged love life. Meanwhile, the Apocalyptic Magical War makes Harry’s birthday tea a little grim, but let’s not dwell on it.

Selling Wood
Goes to Hermione Granger, starring in "Shopping For A Birthday Present For My Good Friend, Draco Malfoy."

Final score: 5

[identity profile] tdotm.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Quidditch Conundrums -
1. Hermione is crap at Quidditch, but Ginny is the pending best player of all time, so can take on any group of people single-handed.
2. Hermione is secretly hexing Harry and Ron - practicing those Charms to take care of her redundant parents
3. Harry is letting Ginny win because he wants to get into her pants (and I wouldn’t mind that - some normal behaviour from this bunch of freaks)

Remus - I’ll discuss him quickly before he disappears from this series forever and is replaced by a reverse-Stepford-Werewolf and starts behaving like a git to order. Is there a limit of times that you can mend clothes magically before the start to show wear and tear. Perhaps that’s it? Can’t be sure, as JKR didn’t mention it. Gaunt I understand - not because of no money for food, but because of a distinctly stressful existence - I’m sure that monthly transformations just eat up those calories.

Constantly worn clothes are a little silly. He worked for a whole year in Book 3, ending just over three years ago, why didn‘t he replenish his wardrobe with hardy and classical items then? He wasn’t even paying rent.
I can keep clothes looking pretty good for that length of time and I’m not a hard done by persecuted minority who doesn’t know where the next galleon is coming from. Tonks obviously wants him sans attire, so that won’t fend her off.

Ron showed strategic ability in the first few books, and is now a good player as well as being relatively accessible by nature. Harry’s a very good player, but ridiculously impulsive, with no empathy or common sense AT ALL. Who’d be the better Quidditch Captain? I know - Ginny, but Harry can‘t be bossed around by his girl! Except maybe in the bedroom, but Harry doesn’t strike me as fun in that way (or in any way)

Bill’s ridiculous access to Harry’s account which could so easily have been written more sensibly, sigh - maybe Arthur Weasley had Harry registered as mentally deficient after Sirius’ death (he’s no fool) and the family has power of attorney over his - everything?

Ginny vs. Fleur - yeah, well at least Bill still wants his fiancée close to him. Watch Harry keep you at bay until another baby is needed - cow.

It could have been poignant that Arthur got promoted and started to at last be capable of a very good standard of living, just as his family grew up and he had fewer dependents. Could have been, but wasn’t.

Ginny’s neck would be at its prettiest when violently severed.

I wouldn’t mind all that nonsense of that drunken idiot Hagrid being Harry’s close personal protection (except he let him go into the store alone - hope there are no back doors!) if it led to Harry or Ginny’s death. This way it was just irritating.

I think Harry got a share of the Twins’ business rather than his money back. If it’s true, it was the right decision. Selling stuff to Draco, the *obvious* villain of the piece marks them as the sort of people who’ll end up very rich and successful, regardless of the damage they leave behind. (Sorry Bill!) Some would say very Slytherin, but not me.

I don’t mind some amusing filler to pass the time/change the pace, but it just goes on and on. Ginny’s only useful for filling a hole in the ground. Spiteful mare.

[identity profile] montavilla.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. I kept waiting for Ron to become the leader he really ought to be. And I maintain that Ron probably would have been a much better Quidditch captain than Harry. For example, Ron probably would have handled the whole Seamus/Dean issue better. (BTW, there's a dozen ways to do that, including putting them both on the team as reserves in the first place, or using Seamus as an assistant captain.... but it's beyond Harry to do anything like that.)

This is one of the reasons you ought to read Watership Down. I don't want to spoil it for you, but the most interesting thing to me was the dynamic between the different rabbits and the way they learned to function as a team. The rabbit who becomes the leader is definitely not the most "special" in any way.

Ron had the potential to become the leader--when it counted. After all, it's Ron who makes the most important strategic decision in PS/SS. But it's like he deliberately steps back in the later books in order to keep Harry happy. The one time that he tried to assert himself as person (rather than Harry's shadow) was in GoF, then he expressed his hurt about being left out of Harry's (supposed) plan. When Ron came back, he must have realized that he'd better keep his head down in the future unless he wanted to be frozen out again (and after GoF, he could have no illusions about who Hermione would pick).


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[identity profile] cressida0201.livejournal.com 2008-09-09 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a limit of times that you can mend clothes magically before the start to show wear and tear. Perhaps that’s it?

Ooh, I like that idea! I think I'll adopt that as my mental explanation. It might explain why Ron's dress robes in Book 4 couldn't be transfigured into something nicer, as well.

Ron showed strategic ability in the first few books

Aside from the chess match at the end of book 1, when was this? I remember him playing chess once or twice in other books, but that's about it. I'm not trying to harp on my dislike for Ron; I just can't think of any other instances, and I tend to assume that Ron's strategic ability was just something that served a purpose once and then was discarded. But maybe I've forgotten something.

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[identity profile] cressida0201.livejournal.com 2008-09-10 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Selling stuff to Draco, the *obvious* villain of the piece marks them as the sort of people who’ll end up very rich and successful, regardless of the damage they leave behind.

Welllll...to be fair, I can't help thinking that actually was intended as irony. Otherwise, why not just say that the stuff was something Dark that they bought in Knocturn Alley, instead of having it come from the Twins' shop? Also, there's a certain amount of "Damned if they do, damned if they don't"; I can't see that it would have been any better for them to refuse to sell to Draco. ("Oh, isn't that just like a Gryffindor, being prejudiced against a Slytherin who apparently only wants to do business with them? Slytherin money is just as good as anyone else's, you know!")

[identity profile] seductivedark.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, man! So much to answer! I'll have to do this in shifts.

*... I think the end of the series will reveal that as a child Lupin was bitten not only by Fenrir Greyback but Raggedy Andy as well.

I loved that! I mean, I loved that. And does his heart say "I Love You Truly", too?

*ETA: Perhaps he's just trying to look bad so Tonks will get the message and leave him alone.

*Remus is also gaunt. You’d think he’d be gaining weight what with all the eating people.:-D

*ETA: Tonks likes them emo.


Ah-hah! I've discovered the plot. See, When Remus Met Tonks he noticed her eyeing his threadbare rags like she was Hungry like a Wolf and decided to play it up. He let her chase him until he caught her with his Patches. See? It was never about Sirius, Sirius would rather he wear A White Sports Coat and a Pink Carnation. Remus could never love someone like that, even though Opposites Attract.

I would expect Harry’s fiancé to maybe have to do that but not Bill’s.

Actually, I thought there would be some Big Reveal after the chest monster reared its head. The way Ron acted after Romilda's spiked chocolates, it just sounded like Ginny was using a milder form of love potion to me.

*...Bill does ROB GRAVES for a living, iirc.

But he ROBS GRAVES for us... not that it made much difference in DHs.

*ETA: Well, we know Ginny won't be doing any such nonsense. Her main job after finally snagging Harry is unobtrusively withdrawing when she's not needed.

Wasn't she an extra in The Stepford Wives?

*Hermione wants new dress robes…why, I’m not sure. Isn’t that like buying a new prom dress?

And I'll bet we were supposed to think it was Hermione who was that awesome back in GoF - it was all in the dress.

[identity profile] seductivedark.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
You’ve got one security guard and are probably expected to be sticking together. As if to point this out, Harry immediately notices other shoppers sticking together in tight knit groups. Cowards.

That really didn't make sense from a security stand-point, but as Hermione noted in PS before she was struck with the malady herself (I hope this isn't movie or ff contamination!), wizards aren't really all that logical. No wonder the Muggles had them by the short-hairs back in the 1600s!

*Okay, he redeems himself slightly by pointing out Hermione’s black eye and offering to send flowers to whoever did it.

:D

*Fred and George then take Harry into the backroom where they sell items for thieves. Ironically, on the way into this room one of them threatens a small boy with physical violence if he pockets anything. ::sniff:: They really have grown up.

*Have Fred and George paid Harry back for his loan? Seems like they’d have to have by now but I don’t remember. They’re giving him free stuff, but frankly I’m shocked they haven’t yet asked him for a personal endorsement of their store. That’ll probably come later.


Harry gets a cut of profits from the shop. He probably gets a cut of the protection money the twins extort from other merchants and small boys. The personal endorsements by The Chosen One (tm) can easily be explained by his marrying their sister.

I guess the reason the steps to the girl’s room in Gryffindor Tower don’t let boys up isn’t because boys are randy and want sex but because the girls are constantly doping them up to force them into servicing their insatiable female libido!

Heh. Nice one!

*Ginny announces that Dean is a boy and Michael is a sore loser so she dumped him. I hope Fred and George rattle off a list of other boys who are interested in Ginny so she can tell us why she rejects them. (Btw, keeping track, that’s two more random people Ginny has mentioned, one neutrally, one negatively.)

I thought saying Dean is a "boy" was an insult - he obviously isn't the *man* that Harry is.

*Harry decides to follow to see where Malfoy’s going. Ooh! I’ve read this one. Harry’s going to follow Malfoy to a brothel where Malfoy has sex with a pretty rent boy with black hair and blue eyes while Harry gets turned on and touches himself under his invisibility cloak.

No, no! It was the one where Draco knows Harry's following him and lays in wait in an alley, then ambushes Harry, and all of a sudden, it's hot and sweaty under that cloak, and Draco's mouth is so cool and refreshing...

*Oh. Wrong story. *shuts off porn music* What happens is, Harry, Ron and Hermione get under the cloak and waltz past Hagrid’s Top Grade Security.

Music winds down with a sickening drone (not that I'm calling Hagrid a drone or anything...)

*Knockturn Alley is deserted because it’s a giveaway to be seen buying "dark" magical items. Or maybe because with Fred and George’s back room, you can buy far more dangerous weapons in Diagon Alley.

Right, but that's okay. It's time the Weasleys got ahead financially.

LOL-now I’m picturing Draco on hold to B&B Tech Support. Have you tried rebooting the cabinet?

*canned Celestine Warbeck song cuts off abruptly* Have you tried plugging it in? Do you want an extra twenty-four months of support?.. Oh, just to the end of the school year?..

[identity profile] elanor-x.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If I were Hermione I'd probably zap the Muggle owners to think they wanted to watch whatever I wanted to watch on TV.
Didn't think you would be so evil to poor Muggle me, sistermagpie. *shudders & runs away*

Hermione wants new dress robes…why, I’m not sure. Isn’t that like buying a new prom dress?
I think you or JKR got confused & JKR meant usual robes, which Hermione wears at school. Hermione didn't know about Bill's & Fleur's wedding yet, so she couldn't buy robes for the occasion.

ETA: Especially when the solution to Draco's life is apparently to let his mum take over for him.
Is it the additional example of Girl!Power or just another sign how emasculated & pathetic Draco is?

She’s more suggesting it’s funny that Fred and George are tacky. But when you’re mostly writing romance, you’d rather your favorite characters be the ones with good breeding and nice clothes and that particular joke be on the Malfoys.
It probably doesn't clash too bad since the twins aren't the ones, who have romances. (I don't count going to the Jule Ball in GoF since it was too minor issue in the books to pay much attention to). Ginny, a Weasley with romances, is anything but tacky.

e) Harry and Ginny need to look good beside their partners.

[identity profile] papier.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Anybody know what happened to this guy? Because no more ice cream remains one of the top 10 horrors of "the war" by the end of the book.

Some of the Muggle parents found out he was giving away free ice cream to their children. He had to move to Fiji to avoid questions.

Fred and George discuss how popular Ginny is. This would be the time for somebody besides Ginny to mime vomiting.

Thank goodness Hogwarts doesn't do the whole American year book thing. Imagine all the categories Ginny would be in! Voted least likely to ever sag, least likely virgin...

Hmmm. The love potions depend on the weight of the boy and the attractiveness of the girl. I’m thinking tranquilizer darts are the way to go, myself. The ugly girl can bag her prey from a distance, have time to catch up to him (especially if she’s heavy and can’t run fast), mount him and run away pregnant before the guy wakes up.

So that's how Hagrid was concieved.

(Anonymous) 2008-09-05 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And remember, in this world being good at Quidditch in high school pretty much translates into a major professional career (if it isn't already) so yay!

But this actually makes sense. Where else would a kid learn to play Quidditch? There are no amateur teams, IIRC. Moreover there are, what 13 professional teams and unlike the school ones they also sensibly have reserve players. It is a wonder that _everybody_ who ever played at school doesn't end up on a professional team.

In public school stories, which are clearly JKR's inspiration for Quidditch a team captain was usually named by the teacher in charge of the games, but he consulted with the team. OTOH, there was a heck of a lot more games there - every week IIRC, with constant practice games in-between, so all players would have been known inside and out.

Re: clothes, it would actually make sense to me if natural wear of clothes couldn't be wholly repaired with magic. Didn't Ron and Ginny also have to get by with worn clothes once upon a time? After all, "Reparo" just assembles the broken pieces, whereas losses through wear are incremental and for good. I wish she'd have put clear limits on Transfiguration, though, because I never understood why anybody would buy any non-enchanted item otherwise. Personally, I would have made Transfiguration temporary, it's duration depending on the skill of the caster (but usually just a couple of hours) and permanent Transfiguration being so rare, complicated and difficult that it is just easier to buy an item. But that's me.

I also don't see why anybody would want to have dress robes in Hogwarts. It isn't like there are any parties, balls, theater performances, concerts, etc. either in the school itself or in Hogsmeade. It is kind of sad that the only entertainment at school is Quidditch, and in Hogsmeade just some shops and watering holes. I mean, the Muggleborns left and now spit on the mundane world for _this_? Yes, that's some superiority there alright...

[identity profile] montavilla.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
What gets me is that Harry told the twins to buy a set of good dress robes for Ron as part of the deal when he financed their store. Which they did (I think Ron mentions it in OotP). At the time it seemed so silly to me. When was Ron going to wear those dress robes? It wasn't like the school held a yule ball every year (fanfic notwithstanding), and Ron was still growing--so it wasn't like the robes would last him for years.

The next time he has any need of dress robes would have been for Bill's wedding--and certainly he would be an usher or something, which requires a specific look. Also, it's like two-three years after the twins bought him the robes, so he's outgrown them anyway.

Or, if dress robes were such a common thing that any wizard would need them after the age of 14, then wouldn't the Weasley's have something appropriate left over from Bill, Charlie, or Percy? It's not like I want to lose that cute storyline of Ron Weasley and The Terrible, Awful, No-Good Dress Robes, but I gotta wonder what's going on through Molly Weasley's head when she goes shopping for the worst set of robes ever for Ron (meanwhile, the Twins and Ginny seem to be have appropriate, non-embarrassing apparel).

Does Molly just plain hate her son who should have a been a girl?

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[identity profile] aasaylva.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
But then, it's in keeping with the whole theory of sexual attraction in this book so it must be on purpose. All girls have to drug or trick their menfolk in some way to get them to want to have sex with them. Really, that's totally normal.
I honestly don't think that sex is the issue here. The girls are going for the jugular - they want marriage. And we all know that it's the woman who ensnares the male while the poor sods are just trapped by their sexual wiles and lovepotions and can't do anything about it.

Seriously, why do they need to dramatically break into Gringott's in the next book? They could have just showed up and said their little brother was a friend of Bellatrix's.
Or asked Bill about it. He worked there and they stayed with him prior to their Gringotts raid. And if they could get into the vault - why would an experienced curse-breaker have any difficulties with it?

Ginny mimes throwing up when Fleur strokes Bill’s nose.....*Despite his not being a child anymore, Draco announces that if his mother smells something bad it’s because a Mudblood just walked in.
OTP!!! They are SOOO suited to each other where humour and maturity are concerned.

Fred and George are also referred to as “Mr and Mr Weasley” by their staff. Amazingly, Harry refrains from seeing this as pretentious
I'd just like to point out that in this week's DH chapter, Harry thinks it very pretentious of Regulus to put that sign on his bedroom door, saying to keep out.

*The twins take Hermione and Ginny to the girlie potions, where they back off warily from the silly giggling girls. They prefer to plot their man traps in dignified hisses and whispers.

*And of course naturally the love potions would all be for girls. What boy would ever want to give a girl a potion to make her want to have sex with him?

LOL-now I’m picturing Draco on hold to B&B Tech Support. Have you tried rebooting the cabinet?
LOL!!!!

[identity profile] aasaylva.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The twins take Hermione and Ginny to the girlie potions, where they back off warily from the silly giggling girls. They prefer to plot their man traps in dignified hisses and whispers.
*And of course naturally the love potions would all be for girls. What boy would ever want to give a girl a potion to make her want to have sex with him?

Sorry, left that in inadvertently. It#s just like I said in the first paragraph - it really doesn't come across as if any boy (apart from Ron) is interested in sex at all - and the girls neither. It's just "catching" yourself a man. come to think of it - do love potions work on werewolves?

And don't get me started on Hermione's idiotic behaviour at B&B's. IMHO, this was the start of buchering her character in HBP - I mean, this was the girl who pulled the wool over Umbridge's eyes just a few months before - and under pressure to boot (fear for Sirius, fear for Harry, fear of being expelled). I already found Harry and Ron rather jarring back in CoS when they made next to nothing of their opportunity in the Slytherin common room - but they were younger and much dumber in general. But this? Pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2008-09-06 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
*But first, a short quiz. Harry and Hermione play Quidditch against Ron and Ginny. Hermione is dreadful but Ginny is good. How does this make them reasonably well matched?

I think it's probably "Hermione is useless, Harry is as good as Ginny and Ron put together".

- Dan Hemmens

[identity profile] aasaylva.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
But first, a short quiz. Harry and Hermione play Quidditch against Ron and Ginny. Hermione is dreadful but Ginny is good. How does this make them reasonably well matched?
That's easy. The male in a couple has to be better than the female. Any couple Harry is a part of is better than any other couple. Meaning he and the worse part of the worse couple equals the better part of the worse couple combined with the worse part of the better couple. Savvy?

[identity profile] montavilla.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, the reason they were "reasonably well-matched" is because Ginny, attuned to her role as the ideal girl, was deliberately underplaying. Obviously, Ron can't be as good as Harry, even though he played keeper for entire year and ended up winning the crucial game. Ginny, of course, proved herself nearly as good as Harry (if not better), by catching the snitch in both games. And, she "prefers" playing Chaser, would presumably means that she's even better at that position. Which she proves in the trials by scoring seventeen goals.

So, mathematically, it really couldn't work out. Let's give Harry a Quidditch quotient of, say, 7. Hermione, being terrible, gets a quotient of 1. Now, let's assume that Ron has at least a 4.

Harry = 7Q, Hermione =Q. Ron =4Q

7Q + Q = 4Q + (X * Q). Therefore, Ginny should have a quotient of 4, making her an Ron equal. But Ginny should really have a quotient of 8, since she's as good as Harry in the seeker position and, two-on-two, she's obviously playing the Chaser. But she's playing at a level of 4. In other words, she's deliberately cutting her skills in half in order to keep her and Ron from blowing Harry and Hermione out of the sky. Ron's probably doing a bit of that himself--not for Hermione's sake, but for Harry's. Don't challenge the alpha male, Ron!


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[identity profile] kaskait.livejournal.com 2008-09-10 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*Speaking of priorities—HARRY GETS TO USE THE SPECIAL BATHROOM NOW! Hogwarts seems to have a lot in common with corporate culture of the early 1960s. People in movies and plays of that time are always trying to get a key to the executive washroom. Poor [info]mike_smith was so excited about the prospect of this bathroom, and it never comes up once in the book after this.

And Harry probably was able to use the locked, super stall too. The stall with the SOLID GOLD toilet commode. The one that when a special Hogwart's student opened the lid, it let out the heavenly sounds like the choir of a thousand angels. It probably let out the special aroma of roses as well.

Only very special students were allowed to use that stall. Only students filled with, uhm, pure love.