*Ron starts talking about Dumbledore owing somebody something…
It reminded me of the Twins' reaction to Arthur's snake bite in OoTF: "Course we can go to St Mungo's if we want, he's our dad!... We don't care about the dumb Order! It's our dad dying we're talking about!" (when Sirius warned them: "Have you any idea what the Ministry would make of that information?... you could seriously damage the Order's-" (is interrupted)) The Twins and Ron don't grasp in the mature way what is really going on. They don't seem to understand that they don't fight for Dumbledore, but with him. Otoh, they are purebloods (no matter what they say about being 'blood traitors') & if V won, they would be able to live normally (DEs already love their joke shop) unlike Harry-the-prophesy-boy, Hermione-the-mudblood or Dumbledore-the-personal-V's-enemy-since-the-latter's-childhood. To phrase it better: I know that if V wins, the Weasleys will be killed as Order members & Ron being Harry's best friend, but isn't it interesting that those purebloods give me the vibe of doing D a favor, while more personally motivated people (the ones V intends to kill) don't?
*Ginny says if they’d hadn’t had the FF they would have died, but as it was everything just missed them. Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
I hope not! The worst thing about FF isn't that this Deus ex machina is artificial and not original, but that it effectively kills all pretense of suspense (Harry drank it? He will get the memory. His friends used the potion? They will all stay not only alive but also not even mulitated like Bill.) Why don't all Order members just drink it in the next book & kill all DEs with V? It becomes so boring.
*LOL! I had completely forgotten that Harry has one more thought about Sectumsempra here...
I am sure JKR made Harry to think just one more time about this subject here to compare DE!Malfoy's "so easily" mended wounds with Hero!Bill's werewolf bites, which "are unlikely ever to heal fully". Just to prevent her readers from blowing the whole Sectumsempra incident out of proportion, like you did in that chapter's recap. :-)
* A thought: why didn't DEs try to go back through the RoR, the same way as they entered? Did they overestimate the Order, assuming that that path had already been blocked? Otherwise, there was no need of last chapter's dramatic flight of the Prince. They could just run there & quietly disappear. IITS for additional drama & the beauty of "DON'T CALL ME COWARD!"
* And the Order was indeed losing to the second-string DEs.
I have just solved this riddle: it seems like IITS in comparison with last year's battle, in which DEs were easily caught, but you have overlooked a little-but-important detail – last year D was there & took care of everything & this year without him they are almost losing, honestly![Re-reading that scene D effortlessly disarms all DEs except Bellatrix, who having to escape for plot purposes still seems to fight well. Those Blacks are hard to kill!] Also, to be fair you have forgotten that last year Kingsley (who "was fighting two at once") was there too, probably with additional Order members.
*Everyone thought Malfoy was being chased by DEs even though they’d been told he led the DEs in?
It adds up only if you assume that the children told only "DEs are here" without giving any additional information. Since they apparently didn't tell about the RoR (Minerva still wonders how DEs got in in this chapter), it totally could happen.
* Remus has never seemed so gay as he seems in this scene. In a book where love is personified as a chest monster leaping out to devour the beloved, the guy needs a roomful of people to finally agree to go out with the girl throwing herself at him…
May be he is sane and has normal feelings (without 'chest monsters'), for example, feelings of grief that the beloved authority figure and the head of war effort, to whom he was personally loyal, had just been killed by an Order member. Btw, if Snape is a DE, like they believe, can't say that the things look very good for the Order.
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Re:Ron&Twins,FF,Sectumsempra,DEs v. Order,Draco& gay!Remus
Date: 2006-09-29 07:12 pm (UTC)It reminded me of the Twins' reaction to Arthur's snake bite in OoTF: "Course we can go to St Mungo's if we want, he's our dad!... We don't care about the dumb Order! It's our dad dying we're talking about!" (when Sirius warned them: "Have you any idea what the Ministry would make of that information?... you could seriously damage the Order's-" (is interrupted))
The Twins and Ron don't grasp in the mature way what is really going on. They don't seem to understand that they don't fight for Dumbledore, but with him. Otoh, they are purebloods (no matter what they say about being 'blood traitors') & if V won, they would be able to live normally (DEs already love their joke shop) unlike Harry-the-prophesy-boy, Hermione-the-mudblood or Dumbledore-the-personal-V's-enemy-since-the-latter's-childhood.
To phrase it better: I know that if V wins, the Weasleys will be killed as Order members & Ron being Harry's best friend, but isn't it interesting that those purebloods give me the vibe of doing D a favor, while more personally motivated people (the ones V intends to kill) don't?
*Ginny says if they’d hadn’t had the FF they would have died, but as it was everything just missed them. Which probably means the FF will never be used again.
I hope not! The worst thing about FF isn't that this Deus ex machina is artificial and not original, but that it effectively kills all pretense of suspense (Harry drank it? He will get the memory. His friends used the potion? They will all stay not only alive but also not even mulitated like Bill.) Why don't all Order members just drink it in the next book & kill all DEs with V? It becomes so boring.
*LOL! I had completely forgotten that Harry has one more thought about Sectumsempra here...
I am sure JKR made Harry to think just one more time about this subject here to compare DE!Malfoy's "so easily" mended wounds with Hero!Bill's werewolf bites, which "are unlikely ever to heal fully". Just to prevent her readers from blowing the whole Sectumsempra incident out of proportion, like you did in that chapter's recap. :-)
* A thought: why didn't DEs try to go back through the RoR, the same way as they entered? Did they overestimate the Order, assuming that that path had already been blocked? Otherwise, there was no need of last chapter's dramatic flight of the Prince. They could just run there & quietly disappear. IITS for additional drama & the beauty of "DON'T CALL ME COWARD!"
* And the Order was indeed losing to the second-string DEs.
I have just solved this riddle: it seems like IITS in comparison with last year's battle, in which DEs were easily caught, but you have overlooked a little-but-important detail – last year D was there & took care of everything & this year without him they are almost losing, honestly![Re-reading that scene D effortlessly disarms all DEs except Bellatrix, who having to escape for plot purposes still seems to fight well. Those Blacks are hard to kill!]
Also, to be fair you have forgotten that last year Kingsley (who "was fighting two at once") was there too, probably with additional Order members.
*Everyone thought Malfoy was being chased by DEs even though they’d been told he led the DEs in?
It adds up only if you assume that the children told only "DEs are here" without giving any additional information. Since they apparently didn't tell about the RoR (Minerva still wonders how DEs got in in this chapter), it totally could happen.
* Remus has never seemed so gay as he seems in this scene. In a book where love is personified as a chest monster leaping out to devour the beloved, the guy needs a roomful of people to finally agree to go out with the girl throwing herself at him…
May be he is sane and has normal feelings (without 'chest monsters'), for example, feelings of grief that the beloved authority figure and the head of war effort, to whom he was personally loyal, had just been killed by an Order member.
Btw, if Snape is a DE, like they believe, can't say that the things look very good for the Order.