Well, no part of H/G is ever going to resemble real life, since Ginny is essentially a mirror for Harry. So she has to fit in the obligatory compliment to his nobility (since Rowling has trouble writing characters who might think outside the box, for example: 'Wow, yeah, it's so noble of you to take your "best comfort", don't worry about mine! Yes, a funeral is the best place to do this!'), mirroring this with her own ('I've always liked you because you fight Voldemort' - implication here that Ginny is so good she instinctively finds this attractive, even at ten.) She won't cry because he finds that repulsive, and she won't question his decision because he hates that. She'll note she doesn't care about her own life (just like Harry's selflessness, blah blah and of course making her a bravely brave Gryffindor), and she'll even flatter his ego by noting that her personality changes and dating other guys were for him, and meaningless, respectively.
I think it's reasonable, though, for Ginny to think that he's noble without knowing him because she connects it to his always fighting Voldemort which is something she does know.
Yeah, it's just not something that's really in-keeping with a relationship. I mean, of course if you're dating a hero or heroine and they're noble and fight evil etc. then great, but you still have to deal with them on a personal level - them being great at saving people doesn't equal them being a great boy/girlfriend (in fact, it seems to tend towards the opposite, there are plenty of people IRL and in fiction who do amazing jobs and are total assholes in their personal lives. I'd think it would be encouraged when to be physically brave, one would have to be constantly willing to risk themselves and die for the cause - could you fit that in with a family? And of course, there's the whole macho thing, which doesn't mesh well with a relationship and sharing emotions.) H/G have a bad enough start that he saved her life, which is fine for a traditional fairy story, but it sort of prevents equality, the very thing JKR claimed to have tried for.
he spent this whole book being 'normal Harry if there were no Dark Lord' and that Harry wasn't the person Ginny seems to like at all.
Really? I thought she seemed to adore HBP!Harry. They bonded over being jock assholes!
as long as Harry is the hero he can't be with Ginny and she'll like him, but when he's done being the hero and can be with her, she won't want him because he's not chasing Voldemort.
And of course with Ginny there's expectations to live up to, too - Harry likes you if you behave this way, he likes it if you change to become more what he likes, and he's very put off if you do things without putting his desires first - see Cho. Of course, she'd never fail to live up to his expectations, being a cyborg, but still. Not a very romantic relationship!
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Date: 2007-02-04 11:14 am (UTC)Well, no part of H/G is ever going to resemble real life, since Ginny is essentially a mirror for Harry.
So she has to fit in the obligatory compliment to his nobility (since Rowling has trouble writing characters who might think outside the box, for example: 'Wow, yeah, it's so noble of you to take your "best comfort", don't worry about mine! Yes, a funeral is the best place to do this!'), mirroring this with her own ('I've always liked you because you fight Voldemort' - implication here that Ginny is so good she instinctively finds this attractive, even at ten.)
She won't cry because he finds that repulsive, and she won't question his decision because he hates that.
She'll note she doesn't care about her own life (just like Harry's selflessness, blah blah and of course making her a bravely brave Gryffindor), and she'll even flatter his ego by noting that her personality changes and dating other guys were for him, and meaningless, respectively.
I think it's reasonable, though, for Ginny to think that he's noble without knowing him because she connects it to his always fighting Voldemort which is something she does know.
Yeah, it's just not something that's really in-keeping with a relationship.
I mean, of course if you're dating a hero or heroine and they're noble and fight evil etc. then great, but you still have to deal with them on a personal level - them being great at saving people doesn't equal them being a great boy/girlfriend (in fact, it seems to tend towards the opposite, there are plenty of people IRL and in fiction who do amazing jobs and are total assholes in their personal lives.
I'd think it would be encouraged when to be physically brave, one would have to be constantly willing to risk themselves and die for the cause - could you fit that in with a family?
And of course, there's the whole macho thing, which doesn't mesh well with a relationship and sharing emotions.)
H/G have a bad enough start that he saved her life, which is fine for a traditional fairy story, but it sort of prevents equality, the very thing JKR claimed to have tried for.
he spent this whole book being 'normal Harry if there were no Dark Lord' and that Harry wasn't the person Ginny seems to like at all.
Really? I thought she seemed to adore HBP!Harry. They bonded over being jock assholes!
as long as Harry is the hero he can't be with Ginny and she'll like him, but when he's done being the hero and can be with her, she won't want him because he's not chasing Voldemort.
And of course with Ginny there's expectations to live up to, too - Harry likes you if you behave this way, he likes it if you change to become more what he likes, and he's very put off if you do things without putting his desires first - see Cho.
Of course, she'd never fail to live up to his expectations, being a cyborg, but still. Not a very romantic relationship!