[identity profile] urbanman1984.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock

Well here it is everyone - a prolonged pause in the action

PS Chapter Three

 

*Dudley has flattened Ms Figg.  I bet Harry was pleased.

 

*So Harry’s longest ever imprisonment in the cupboard took from Dud’s birthday to shortly before his own?  So about a month.  But then, given JKR’s maths, it could really be any length of time.

 

*Following on from the discussion about the previous chapter, it really is the case that Harry does not have a victim’s personality.  If he really found Dudley intimidating he wouldn’t be able to answer him back like this.

 

*Hmm the cake was stale though... bet Harry wishes Dud had killed the old squib outright.

 

*Smeltings boys wear ridiculous uniforms and have sticks of wood for attacking each other which is supposed to be good training for later life.  Sound like an all boys version of Hogwarts much?

 

*I presume Harry was just being a smart alec when he goes “I didn’t realise it had to be so wet.”  Otherwise he would seem dumber than Dudley.

 

*Harry could have read the letter quickly when he was in the hall, but no – he had to ensure that this chapter is really drawn out and the plot suspended for its duration. 

 

*It is evident that the Dursleys have received no communication from the magical world since the letter that Dumblesnore dropped off with Harry on their doorstep.  Evidently they infer from McGonagall’s letter that somebody from the magical community – they don’t know who - might now have them under surveillance and it changes their whole approach towards Harry completely.  Not only do they move him into a bedroom, but they don’t even attempt to favour Dudley anymore.  So the merest hint of magical intervention is sufficient to prevent them from keeping Harry downtrodden.  It is highly likely that Dumblesnore’s first letter gave them permission, perhaps even recommended, that they keep Harry downtrodden.  If he didn’t want them to do that it would have been very easy to check up on Harry on a regular basis in a way that Vernon and Petunia would notice.  This letter’s defining feature is that it is from someone magical besides Dumbledore.

 

*Dudley’s a right little slob :p  Nothing like Harry of course.  Oh wait... *remembers later in the series* Well Dud never reads anything, unlike Harry... *remembers all the rest of the series again* I’ll stop trying to compare Harry favourably to Dudley.

 

*Animals have a harrowing time around Dudley.  But I recall agreeing with another member of deathtocapslocks who pointed out that JKR wasted an opportunity to make Harry more likeable than Dudley by making him kind to animals. 

 

*The Smeltings stick certainly gets put to good use here.

 

*It’s just as well Vernon is referring to Hagrid *although he doesn’t know it* with his ironic remark about the delivery person’s mind working in strange ways.  Hagrid really is dumber than Vernon and bizarre to say the best of it.

 

*Dudley becomes a lot sharper in this chapter, asking Harry the question which is perplexing us all; “who on Earth wants to talk to you this badly?” Compare to chapter two, when he could not count.

 

*A minimum of intervention from the magical community also prevents Dudley from being indulged or spoiled in any way.  Vernon doesn’t even put up with his unconventional packing methods anymore.

 

*A generic seedy hotel!

 

*Hagrid’s line of thinking dictates that if Harry doesn’t receive a letter by one delivery, then the solution is to send twice as many by the following delivery.  If a character with even rudimentary intelligence had been in charge of delivering the letter then this chapter would have been very short indeed.

 

*Dud is now the one supplying the spontaneous witticisms.

 

*Dud only remembers the days of the week because of TV, but Harry can’t keep track of them at all. 

 

*So nothing has progressed in the way of plot during this chapter, but the location has shifted from Privet Drive to a hut on the rock in what seems like a different genre...

 

*Again, if Dudley were a successful bully, or if Harry had a victim’s mentality, Harry would not be prepared to wake Dud up simply to annoy him.

 

*Hagrid’s here!  Brace yourselves everyone...

Date: 2010-07-23 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlette.livejournal.com
But I don't think they're always misunderstood or mistreated, by Harry or the author, even if I have issues with their stories.

Yup, you and I are on the same page here.

Personally, I think there is more that JKR could have done with Slytherin. Especially giving the House a bigger redemptive arc ... would that have been so hard? Did ALL the Slytherins have to be seen as siding with Pansy, for example??? Sigh.

(I have actually occasionally gotten accused of bashing characters on this comm when I was feeling kind of affectionate towards them!)

LOL.

As a Snape fan who loves Snape even when he's being a complete bastard, I sympathise. ;)

Date: 2010-07-29 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
Did ALL the Slytherins have to be seen as siding with Pansy, for example??? Sigh.

Did they side with her? We don't even know how they reacted. Members of the 3 other Houses faced the Slytherin table and Minerva sent them all out, without asking further questions. The Slytherins are voiceless. In any case, Pansy's suggestion of handing Harry in was sensible and could have saved lives (though Hermione and Ron would have had to manage the diadem somehow, I'm not sure they would have figured it out).

Date: 2010-09-05 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmmarcusz.livejournal.com
But (as I've said before) none of the Slytherins knew about Horcruces or anything. As far as they knew, Voldemort's victory was inevitable, and their choice was between dying pointlessly or surrendering.

Also, isn't it funny that Pansy's idea ("Give him Potter!") bears a slight resemblence to Slumberbore's plan ("Give him Potter!") ?

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