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I’m not entirely sure that this is the best place to post this essay, but as it concerns issues which we frequently comment about here, I thought I might as well share it with you. As you may be able to guess from the title, it contains my thoughts on the House system and how it connects to the politics of the wizarding world. Enjoy! :)

 

 

Theoretically, at least, the Sorting Hat sorts students based upon their innate personalities; thus, brave students go into Gryffindor, clever ones into Ravenclaw, hard-working ones into Hufflepuff and cunning ones into Slytherin. It seems unlikely, however, that this is the only – or even the main – factor in the Hat’s choice. For a start, we know that certain families tend towards certain Houses (the Weasleys all seem to be Gryffindors, for example, whilst Draco’s ancestors were apparently all in Slytherin). Family members do not all share the same personality, however, and, if personality were the main factor in the Hat’s choice, we would expect virtually every family to have members in each House. Secondly, many people seem to have been sorted into the “wrong” House; Crabbe and Goyle, for example, never display any signs of cunning or ambition, and Albus Dumbledore seems more like a Ravenclaw or Slytherin than a Gryffindor. This would be more explicable if we take the view that the main factor in students’ House choices is, in fact, their own personal preferences. The wizarding world seems fairly corporatist, and family unity is highly prized (hence, for example, the Weasleys’ anger when Percy chooses to side with the Ministry over his father), so it seems quite likely that children would have a strong preference towards being sorted into their parents’ House; this would also explain the fact that students frequently seem not to display their House’s preferred qualities to any great degree.

Wizarding politics seems to be mostly split between those who support the rights of the old Pureblood families, and those who advocate greater inclusion of Muggleborns into wizarding society and politics. This division seems to be reflected in the school House system. Slytherin House’s reputation as the home of the rich and privileged and a bastion of Pureblood supremacy suggests that it is the House of choice for pro-Purebloods; Godric Gryffindor, on the other hand, was described by Rowling as “an enlightened fighter against anti-Muggle discrimination”, suggesting that, from the beginning, his House has been associated with the pro-Muggleborns. Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff don’t seem so strongly aligned; possibly they are both halfway houses (no pun intended), containing a mixture of pro-Purebloods and pro-Muggleborns, and aligning themselves with whichever political faction currently has the upper hand.

The fact that Slytherin and Gryffindor apparently clashed over whether or not to include Muggleborns suggests that this issue has been an important one in wizarding politics for many centuries. As society’s attitudes are never static, the balance of power will probably have swung like a pendulum from one side to another, with first the Pureblood Faction, then the Muggleborn, having the upper hand. At the time of the HP novels, it seems that the pro-Muggleborns are in control; not only does Mr. Borgin complain that “wizarding blood is counting for less and less everywhere”, the alignment of Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff Houses with Gryffindor against Slytherin would make more sense if the political winds were blowing in the former’s favour. It would also explain why Voldemort’s followers mostly seem to be from Slytherin House: rich aristocrats are usually the least likely to try and overthrow the established order, having as they do the most to lose and the least to gain; if, however, they’ve felt their power and influence being eroded over the past decades, and this process seems likely to continue for the foreseeable future, they might be tempted to rise up in rebellion in order to prevent this from happening.

It seems likely that most Dark Wizards come from whichever faction is currently losing. As of the late twentieth century, this means that Voldemort and most of his supporters are from Slytherin; when the Purebloods had the most influence, Gryffindor was probably the “dark” House. Which brings us onto a certain infamous line: in PS, when Harry is worried about being sorted into Hufflepuff, Hagrid consoles him by saying that Hufflepuff is better than Slytherin, adding that “There’s not a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn’t in Slytherin.” At first glance, this seems ridiculous (what, so there were literally no Dark Wizards over the past millennium who were in Gryffindor, Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw?), but it may be that Hagrid’s definition of “goin’ bad” isn’t the same as most people’s. By way of analogy to Muggle dictators, Slytherin Dark Wizards would mostly be like General Franco, trying to return the wizarding world to a mythical golden age before their society was corrupted by foreign elements. Gryffindor ones, on the other hand, would be more like communist revolutionaries, trying to overthrow those in power to create a more egalitarian society. Hagrid’s blood status makes him a natural member of the Gryffindor faction, and it seems quite likely that he would sympathise with the aims, if not the methods, of these Gryffindor Dark Wizards. If this is the case, then it may be that he doesn’t consider any Gryffindor Dark Wizard to be bad – misguided, certainly, but not evil, unlike the Slytherins, who want to keep people like him down and deny them equal rights and opportunities. From his point of view, therefore, “All bad wizards are Slytherins” might be a perfectly reasonable thing to say.

The Gryffindor House-Slytherin House hostility also makes more sense when viewed through this lens. From the Gryffindors’ point of view, the Slytherins certainly are despicable: they’re seen as stupid and ugly (and yet, at the same time, as a dangerous threat, mirroring many real-world examples of prejudice), and virtually anything they do is considered bad by default, even when, in objective terms, they’re often little worse or even better than the Gryffindors (see, for example, practically any chapter in any Harry Potter book). This would be extremely over-the-top if it were a simple example of inter-House rivalry; if seen as a continuation of a centuries-old feud, however, it seems more explicable. (As mentioned above, wizarding society is very corporatist, so it seems quite likely that children would inherit their parents’ political views.) It also explains the hatred of the Malfoys for the Weasleys: as an old Pureblood family, the Weasleys would seem to be natural Optimates (indeed, it may be that they were until a few generations ago, which would explain why they are still Pureblood despite being so pro-Muggle), and thus would be considered class traitors by the Malfoys.

We aren’t really told the Slytherin view in the books, probably because Harry aligns his world-view almost entirely with the Gryffindors. This makes the Slytherins come across as ridiculous caricatures in places; if viewed through the lens of “Harry Potter as political propaganda”, however, their characterisation starts to make more sense.

 


From: [identity profile] sharaz-jek.livejournal.com
Dumbledore only seems to have told people what he thought was absolutely necessary. Voldemort's true identity wasn't relevant to Snape's story, nor to any part of his strategy that wasn't directly relevant to Harry, so he wouldn't have bothered.
From: [identity profile] karentheunicorn.livejournal.com
/Dumbledore only seems to have told people what he thought was absolutely necessary. Voldemort's true identity wasn't relevant to Snape's story, nor to any part of his strategy that wasn't directly relevant to Harry, so he wouldn't have bothered./

I don't mean he told the Wizimonger (or however it's spelled) when he was talking about Snape or that telling them about Snape meant he also told them about Tom. I'm saying it's a point that Dumbledore was head of this high ruling council/court of people in the wizarding world. They had this meeting where he apparently gave evidence that Snape was a spy.

If it was a meeting with these people about the war, I would have expected them to talk about more things than Severus. It isn't clear that Severus was ever on trial, it almost seems like Dumbledore took the initiative to inform them of Snape actually being on the good side before Voldemort fell.

Although all of this is speculation - I mean he could have given Snape's story earlier before Karkaroff was brought in, hell maybe Snape was brought in to - but I don't get that from what I read. I think he said something about He (Dumbledore) had already given evidence to Snape's loyalties, etc.

The way I remember it being worded it makes it sound like the info on Severus was at another meeting sometime before Karkaroff's trial because it seems like he's reminding the assembled group. Again I'd have to go back and read the exact text again but it just seems to me Dumbledore would have at least told 'those' people info on Tom being Voldemort.

I'm just still not getting why he needed to keep that info about Voldemort a secret.

The only thing I can get out of it is Dumbledore would have been ashamed because he was the one that went to get Tom at the orphanage.

I just never really got that it was a secret from everyone and I guess I missed that in my reading that nobody knew till later that Tom was in fact Voldemort. I just never picked up on that. The only thing I picked up on was that Harry and kids really didn't know till COS and I guess I just missed it that everyone else was clueless about Voldemort true identity.
From: [identity profile] seductivedark.livejournal.com
Dumbledore should have been ashamed that he didn't warn the other Hogwarts staff about the stuff Tom was pulling at the orphanage - hanging that kid's pet rabbit, terrorizing those other children in a sea cave until they weren't quite right, stealing from the other kids, so on and so forth. He just let Tom wander in and start his nonsense in the WW without saying a word. There was a time when fans thought it was just DD's good nature, his willingness to give second chances, that blew up in his face this time but, with the other manipulations he is shown to have pulled, that doesn't wash any more.

Dumbledore had no reason to be ashamed of going to the orphanage to see Tom. It was, apparently, part of his job as staff to visit the guardians of a Muggle-born wizard and smooth the way for the kid to attend school. Since the orphanage staff weren't Tom's actual relations he kept the WW a secret from them, using conjured gin and a charmed scrap of paper on Mrs Cole, the head matron of the orphanage, to trick her into agreeing to send Tom to the school. Mrs Cole, on the other hand, did her moral duty by warning Dumbledore about Tom's shady tendencies.

If it helps any, in DH, Aberforth tells Harry that Albus learned secrecy at his mother's knee. He was taught from infancy to keep his mouth shut about what he knows. As an adult he should have re-examined that particular practice but he didn't.

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