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This is the obligatory Dursley chapter, in which we are treated to the home life of this family and learn how inferior they are to wizard families.

Dudley takes up a whole side of the square kitchen table. Ahem, I doubt a square kitchen table (as opposed to a dining room table) was designed to seat 8 people, 2 on a side. His parents excuse away his teachers' accusations of bullying. As opposed to the Weasleys who never receive reports making such heinous accusations against the twins (we'll see the school does occasionally owl their parents, but I don't see any awareness that some of what the twins do is bullying behavior). (This starts the theme of parents dealing with wayward sons in this book.) Dudley is forced into a diet of fruit and vegetables rather than his favorites. From the descriptions we get of the food Harry eats at Hogwarts I get the feeling Harry's favorites are closer to Dudley's than to the health foods, nor does he limit his intake. But somehow Harry remains thin, regardless of whether he gets starved by Petunia or stuffed by Molly or the House-elves.

Changing the food choices of the entire family is a good thing! However adjusting Harry's serving size to Dudley's (perceived?) emotional needs isn't. I don't begrudge Harry for working around a diet he doesn't need, but then I also sympathize with Dudley who does. Changing eating habits of years is hard.
This is also the place to say Dudley must have grown up as an emotional wreck. Knowing that his parents were capable of such physical and emotional deprivation of someone in their care - what if he ever failed to please them? I think a big part of his misbehavior is both making sure his parents know he *isn't* Harry as well as wanting the reassurance that they still love him, no matter what anyone else thinks.

Of Harry's 4 sources of help only one sends food he appreciates. Odd that even Hagrid managed to send an edible birthday cake. But how edible is it (or any of the others) 3 weeks later?

Harry is surprised that the Weasleys wrote directly to the Dursleys. Vernon is embarrassed that they didn't know how many stamps to use. But really, how hard is it to find out? Didn't they go to the post office to buy the stamps? What does it say about the exchange rate between Galleons and pounds that a family so poor finds it reasonable to spend on so many stamps for one letter? Molly's letter sounds as if she is trying too hard to make the Quidditch World Cup sound special and to make Arthur sound important. And of course she doesn't have enough imagination to realize that sending a letter by owl isn't normal for the Dursleys.

Harry is offended on Molly's behalf when Vernon calls her 'dumpy'. Since Molly likes Harry nobody is allowed to notice she is overweight.

I must say that the scene where Harry threatens Vernon with Sirius looks a lot less humorous now that I have seen Harry enjoy torturing a man for punishment, and Sirius engaging in Muggle-baiting.

If I am correct in my understanding that Ron is claiming that he and Molly wrote their respective letters at about the same time, then I am impressed with the UK post. Molly's letter arrived on Saturday morning. Pig arrived the same morning. Considering the speed of owls elsewhere, it looks as though Ron's letter was sent earlier that morning. So a letter got delivered the morning it was sent?

I am less impressed with the Weasleys. They plan on taking Harry regardless of the Dursleys' consent. One could argue that eventually Molly and Arthur realized their sons were not exaggerating when they said Harry had been imprisoned and starved, but seeing how Arthur views the treatment of Muggles, both in this book and in COS, I doubt this made a difference.

Harry is happy specifically because Dudley is suffering and he isn't. The seeds of the bully of HBP and war criminal of DH.

Date: 2011-01-20 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madderbrad.livejournal.com
He's getting good marks based on someone else's work -- I'd define that as cheating.

I think your definition applies more to academic endeavours such as exams or written papers rather than 'practicals' like brewing potions; as has been discussed elsewhere here.

It bothers me that he utilize'd the HBP's corrected potions and didn't say anything -- he presented the final product to Slughorn as if he'd followed the uncorrected textbook recipe, which was dishonest.

But that's plainly not correct. Slughorn's on record as praising Harry for innovations such as adding extra ingredients; so clearly it's NOT a rule that the 'uncorrected textbook recipe' must be followed stringently.

Date: 2011-01-21 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karentheunicorn.livejournal.com
Slughorn's on record as praising Harry for innovations such as adding extra ingredients; so clearly it's NOT a rule that the 'uncorrected textbook recipe' must be followed stringently.

Again, HOW does Slughorn believe he is adding those innovations. Is it Harry knowing the knows the property of an ingredient and through his own test and knowledge of what each substance does and how the react to each other?

I do not remember the praise you are speaking of but if we could have the quote I might give a little on this. BUT, is the praise associated by, He believes Harry added the 'innovations' because Harry knew what he was doing and schooled himself enough to know adding an ingredient would get an effect. Or is he just copying someone elses notes who did do the innovantion.

Is Slughorn believing it's through his (Harry's) own work that this superior potion was created?

After all, this is the advanced class for potion. One expects that those choosing to take this class have a desire to learn and the ability to create and modify potions. After all, Snape's textbook would have been for 6th year, this is the advanced class, Severus would have been taking the time on his own to make these changes and learn, test and imagine what each potion was, he would have learned each ingredient, have tested how they interact together.

Harry does none of that in his 'advanced' study. Taking the 6th and 7th year is by choice but it also would be expected to have a more intelligent student that knows what the they are doing.

So I'd like to see the quote about the Innovations, is Slughorn deciding it's harry that did this OR that Harry has looked into new methods for potion making outside of the text book and classroom.

Harry was not pouring over the Potion Monthly Magazine, brushing up on his skills to learn new innovations.

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