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[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

Am I the only one a little bothered by Dumbledore? Not only with the fact he could end up in the Guinness Book Of World Records for "Most Incompetent Headmaster of All Time" (though I'm sure there's worse. :P), but also because...he just bugs me. I know JKR was trying to write him as the "flawed Yoda", so to speak (and to be fair, he's nowhere near Yoda. XD), but it's also how...preachy he gets. Towards Fudge, for example. You know, in Goblet of Fire, with, "You place too much importance on purity of blood, yadda yadda et cetera et cetera" -- which considering how he treated Tom Riddle and the Slytherins is...slightly hypocritical isn't it? Probably bad writing on JKR's part, though. :/

Anyways, sorry 'bout the rambling. Thoughts?

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[sweettalkeress.livejournal.com]

And then there's the fact that to hold Dumbledore as morally questionable you have to compare him *directly* with Snape- something along the lines of "Snape is a jerk but so is Dumbledore in his own way". I've tried getting Dumbledore on the Jerk Stu page with no luck. And not to mention, while both Severus and James are on the Ron the Death Eater page, with Severus it's "You know, maybe he really isn't as big of an asshole as some people claim," while for James it's "You can't really blame him too much because he's a fiercely loyal friend and a hero!"

Also, "anti-racism and anti-classism messages?" I'm sure that explains why none of the wizards, good or bad, ever treat nonmagic folk as anything more than retarded morons at best or animals at worst!

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

TV Tropes has a very strong Gryffindor bias. 'Nuff said. :P

I'm probably going to sound silly, but what are your reasons for Dumbledore being on the Jerk Stu page? (Mostly want to hear your perspective. :)

[sweettalkeress.livejournal.com]

Well, mostly because he was a jerk (no need to explain that) and yet he also happened to be the most powerful and influential wizard in the world, who was gifted from a young age and whom everyone who is anyone adored; and anyone who didn't throw themselves at his feet was portrayed as delusional at best and ended up humiliated, dead, or else crawling to his feet.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

This! :D

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

I hate that. Dumbledore's such an asshole but people are fooled by his facade. I admit, I was as well, but by DH, you think people would've seen through it! But they still idolize the man! I cringed so hard when Evanna Lynch, whom I otherwise like, said Dumbledore's her favorite character and she painted a mural of him in her room. *headdesk*

Sucks that you can't get DD on the Jerk Stu page, he deserves it.

And I hate the double standard- James gets excused away with 'he was a kid, Snape provoked him (HE ASKED TO BE BULLIED, OKAY?) and he grew up (what evidence is there of that?!)' but Snape suffers a lifetime of humiliation and abuse and they can't understand why he's a bitter, sarcastic man.

And I lol at the whole 'racism' message of the series- you really can't legitimately compare Muggle-borns and black oppression, not any more than the house-elf issue is relatable to slavery. And you hit the nail on the head- all these wizards, heroes especially, look down on Muggles, but that's never viewed as discrimination. Ugh, this series makes me so sick.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

*This*! :D