deathtocapslock | OOTP Chapter Twelve: "Professor Umbridge"

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* “Does he think he’ll turn into a nutter if he stays in a room with me too long?” Given that you threatened to curse him yesterday, he probably thinks you’ve already turned into one.

* So having favoured Harry over Seamus, Ron’s now reluctant to keep his brothers in line. A prefect should really be more impartial.

* Nice to see Harry and Ron dismissing the prospect of uniting with the Slytherins out of hand like that. And to think that some people say Slytherins aren’t treated like proper members of the school!

* So Angelina’s only holding try-outs for Wood’s replacement, whereas Harry will make everybody try-out next year. Is this something that varies depending on who’s captain, or did JKR just make up the “everyone tries out” idea to add some Ron-related angst in Book 6?

* Note how Ron’s already decided that he won’t like Umbridge before having one lesson with her. As it is he’ll be proved right, but still, it’s not like they’re giving her much of a chance, is it?

* “‘Leave me out of it,’ said Ron hastily.” Nice to see him undermining the authority of his fellow-prefect like that, isn’t it?

* As if the prospect of taking exams which determine whether or not you stay at school isn’t stress enough, Fred and George go and give people boils. Charming.

* As an aside, how does the exam system in Hogwarts work? In some ways it seems like GCSEs/O-levels, but if this were the case we’d expect quite a few people to leave school after taking them and take up jobs, rather than study to NEWT level. Or is it more a case of them being necessary to progress to NEWT level, but otherwise not really affecting your final qualifications, a bit like some university exams?

* Poor Ron, wanting to be an Auror. He’s spent his entire school career being overshadowed by Harry, and now he’ll spend his entire professional career being overshadowed, too. What he really needs is some time working/travelling without Harry or Hermione, so that he can become more confident and discover that he can actually cope without them. I doubt JKR would give him that, though.

* Besides, Aurors are, like, the élite. You can’t be one of them unless you’re really good. Or unless you’re the Chosen One, in which case you are entitled to take up whatever job you want. And get your friends into the Aurors, too.

* Ugh, Hermione’s so easy to manipulate. “Oh, you’re so clever, please lend us your notes.” She really ought to stop helping them, or at least scale back her help to a level where she’s not practically doing their work for them.

* Although I am rather attracted to the idea that she’s subconsciously trying to make herself indispensible to the boys due to her deep-seated insecurity. Especially given what happened to her when she last seriously stood up to them, over the broom in POA.

* So Harry meets Cho, makes a complete faux pas and reminds her of her dead boyfriend. Ron quickly steers the conversation away onto something more happy, i.e., Quidditch, before Cho can get too upset. Nevertheless, Ron is apparently the insensitive jerk around here, not Harry.

* And Ron and Hermione keep bickering about it all the way to Potions class. I’ve heard of couples getting into friendly arguments, but really, this is just ridiculous.

* Snape has apparently come to expect a high pass level from his students, suggesting that he’s actually quite a good teacher, after all.

* No matter how “worthless” Harry’s potion is, Ron’s has to be even worse.

* For Divination, they work from The Dream Oracle, by Inigo Imago. Which makes me wonder: where do people get the time to research all this complicated magic stuff and write up books about it? Apart from teaching positions in Hogwarts, there don’t really seem to be any academic jobs in the WW, and there aren’t enough wizards to make writing books a viable way of making a living (which perhaps explains the lack of wizarding fiction – there just isn’t a big enough audience for such works to be profitable). But surely a regular day job wouldn’t leave much time for research, so perhaps there’s some form of Ministry grant to allow people to take time off work and research these topics, or the people who do so are all wealthy enough that they can afford not to work full-time.

* Keeping a dream diary doesn’t seem as onerous as Harry and Ron seem to make out. After all, it’s not like most people have many dreams, and I’d be surprised if they’d end up remembering more than one or two over that whole period.

* Professor Umbridge’s wand is “unusually short”. Freudian, anyone?

* Knowing the WW, those kids really need a Defence class involving some considerations of the ethics involved. Like Umbridge’s. Still, no wonder they don’t take to it. Ethics? Pah! What sort of cowardly thing is this?

* Picking a fight with a teacher like this seems a bit OOC for someone like Hermione. Maybe the real Hermione Granger’s been drugged and locked in a magical trunk with the real Ginny Weasley, and has now been taken over as JKR’s sock-puppet.

* At least Dean acknowledged that Moody “turned out to be a maniac”, but doesn’t seem to dwell on it too much because “we still learned loads”. Which seems… somewhat worrying, TBH. Sort of like a Muggle saying “Yes, well, I know Myra Hindley turned out to be a mass-murderer, but she taught me loads of great childcare tips.”

* So Professor Umbridge states that Voldemort’s return is a lie, which seems to be the Ministry line. But never does anybody suggest that Harry killed Cedric himself, despite him having the means, motive and opportunity, and despite the fact that Cedric’s body doesn’t seem to bear animal attack marks on it. Perhaps it’d just be too difficult for Harry to rebut, and hence would get in the way of JKR’s planned storyline.

* “Well, I’m glad you listen to Hermione Granger, at any rate,” says Professor McGonagall, somewhat ironically, given that Hermione’s the one who started the trouble.

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From:

urbanman1984.livejournal.com

Snape was the only teacher at Hogwarts who ever put Hermione down like she really deserved, he gets that much credit. I should think he would know better than to ever have anything resembling romantic or lascivious thoughts towards her no matter what happened.

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majorjune.livejournal.com

Hermione reads books and regurgitates what she's read, but she never demonstrates real intelligence, certainly never comes close to Snape's brilliance.

The idea of a teacher having relations with a student or even an ex-student is creepy, and even if that student is "of age", I just don't see Snape doing it, and especially not with someone who is not only not his intellectual equal, but is actually quite beneath him.

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urbanman1984.livejournal.com

My thoughts exactly. Snape could think outside the box, so to speak. That is evidenced by his intuitive grasp of potion brewing that enabled him to rewrite the text book recipes so they worked better.

Snape would have to be completely out of character to have anything like a relationship with any one of his pupils or ex-pupils, let alone one who is as amoral and unintelligent as Hermione is.

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charlottehywd.livejournal.com

let alone one who is as amoral and unintelligent as Hermione is

This pretty much sums it up. It really amazes me that at one time she was my favorite character and that I looked up to her, even! Sheesh, what was I thinking? At least I always liked Neville and Percy, so I had a little taste.

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charlottehywd.livejournal.com

This is an excellent point. I remember someone in this group once saying that Hermione is what a not very smart person thinks smart people are like, and the more I thought about it, the more it seemed true. It actually reminds me of something I learned in my instructional services class (teaching for librarians, pretty much)- being able to parrot back things that you have read or learned is actually really low on the learning scale. The higher forms of thinking involve interpreting them and being able to apply them to a variety of situations.

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charlottehywd.livejournal.com

Of course, I am sure that JKR would probably counter by saying that Hermione was above mere muggle learning theories. ;-)

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lynn-waterfall.livejournal.com

I remember someone in this group once saying that Hermione is what a not very smart person thinks smart people are like, and the more I thought about it, the more it seemed true.

I think this is reasonable, but even more than that, it's what a smart character looks like when written by a lazy author. Need to make a character smart? Have them spew out a lot of facts -- particularly when, in fantasy, the author can just make them up. No need to work out something clever for them to say or do.

From:

majorjune.livejournal.com

This is an excellent point. I remember someone in this group once saying that Hermione is what a not very smart person thinks smart people are like, and the more I thought about it, the more it seemed true.

And so what does that say about Rowling herself? ;-)

But I would quibble over the difference between "smart" and "intelligent"; I would modify your statement so that it said that Hermione is what a not very intelligent person thinks intelligent people are like.

I'm not saying Hermione isn't "smart"...ever take an open-book test in some subject? They are usually much harder tests than regular tests.

It takes a smart person to do good research on a subject, to know where to go to find the information, and to collate it and present it in an understandable manner. Hermione is smart; she'd make a damn good researcher.

But that is as far as she goes; she never ponders on the information she gleans once the information tidbit has been made useful. She'd never dream of deviating from the instructions written in a book.

Hermione would probably make a decent cook...she'd follow any and all cookbooks to the letter and turn out dishes her family and friends would rave about.

But she's never going to be a master chef. ;-)

From:

charlottehywd.livejournal.com

I see your point about the difference between smart and intelligent, but as a Library Science major I have to disagree with your comments on researching. As I quickly found out this semester, doing effective research is hard. It isn't just a matter of wandering around looking for stuff- it's cultivating a whole different way of thinking. You have to be able to think your way through things in a fashion that is both logical and creative- one that goes beyond just being "smart". When most people go to look for something, they try the subject they have in mind but often this doesn't lead to very good results. A good researcher knows not only where the most likely place to find a given piece of information is, but also how to weed through the millions of irrelevant items that they find while looking for it. This is why people spend thousands of dollars on classes that teach how to do this.

But then, I probably say this mostly because my reference class has been kicking my butt. ;-)

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