Hermoine, compassion, and idealism
Apr. 7th, 2013 09:06 amHi everyone
First post, hope this works!
This started out as a comment in response to DH chapter 9, below, but I decided to put it where it can be seen more easily because I'd really like to learn what people think.
The discussion was about Hermione as compassionate and/or ruthless, which grew out of a discussion of her changing her parents' identities.
To me it seems that she cares about the rights of others as an ideal, from her own perspective. That does show compassion but it's patronising. I think that's something pretty common among Western do-gooders (and probably do-gooders more generally) and it's something I have to struggle against myself. It's entirely likely in someone so young.
The scary thought is her level of potential power and the lack of guidance in the WW to help her really consider those she's trying to help. Ron points out that house elf values are different - whether because he actually considers them or to protect the status quo - but Hermione doesn't respect anything he says. Her approach agrees perfectly with the most 'enlightened' wizarding attitudes to muggles, and there are plenty of wizards who've grown up with them. I can easily see a 'greater good' type attitude developing as Hermione gains power in the Ministry.
Since JKR worked for Amnesty I wonder if this aspect of Hermione is based on what she found there?
Also, I wonder what message she was trying to send. Is it supposed to be a good or bad part of Hermoine's character? Or, with unusual subtlety for these books, both? The message almost seems to be that 'do-gooding' is pointless - SPEW is a misguided joke, compassion is wasted on goblins and giants, and no-one questions the inferiority of muggles. At the same time I'm sure it's meant to show Hermoine's courage and goodness.
What does anyone think? Is JKR really trying to turn people off idealism? If so, does that have anything to do with the actual wishes of the 'helpees'?
First post, hope this works!
This started out as a comment in response to DH chapter 9, below, but I decided to put it where it can be seen more easily because I'd really like to learn what people think.
The discussion was about Hermione as compassionate and/or ruthless, which grew out of a discussion of her changing her parents' identities.
To me it seems that she cares about the rights of others as an ideal, from her own perspective. That does show compassion but it's patronising. I think that's something pretty common among Western do-gooders (and probably do-gooders more generally) and it's something I have to struggle against myself. It's entirely likely in someone so young.
The scary thought is her level of potential power and the lack of guidance in the WW to help her really consider those she's trying to help. Ron points out that house elf values are different - whether because he actually considers them or to protect the status quo - but Hermione doesn't respect anything he says. Her approach agrees perfectly with the most 'enlightened' wizarding attitudes to muggles, and there are plenty of wizards who've grown up with them. I can easily see a 'greater good' type attitude developing as Hermione gains power in the Ministry.
Since JKR worked for Amnesty I wonder if this aspect of Hermione is based on what she found there?
Also, I wonder what message she was trying to send. Is it supposed to be a good or bad part of Hermoine's character? Or, with unusual subtlety for these books, both? The message almost seems to be that 'do-gooding' is pointless - SPEW is a misguided joke, compassion is wasted on goblins and giants, and no-one questions the inferiority of muggles. At the same time I'm sure it's meant to show Hermoine's courage and goodness.
What does anyone think? Is JKR really trying to turn people off idealism? If so, does that have anything to do with the actual wishes of the 'helpees'?
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Date: 2013-04-27 07:53 pm (UTC)And as for any speculation that they "may" fade over a year or so... well, we have no evidence of that. But more importantly, neither does Marietta. Hermione didn't tell anyone exactly how she performed this jinx, so none of them know the possible long-term effects.
In fact, even if it appears similar to a known (to everyone but Harry?) jinx, Marietta would know - via Cho even if she forgot - that Hermione can adapt spells, as she did for the coins, and so this one may not behave exactly as expected. (Let's just hope word that her inspiration for the coins was the Dark Mark didn't get around or people might really worry about those very long-lasting skin disfigurements.)
Either way, this is the kind of thing even a halfway prudent person would want to get checked out, to make sure there aren't any more medical developments in store. Even regular, non-magically-induced cystic acne would rate a check-up and possibly a prescription before the time she went back to school. (Seriously, those hurt like hell.) Especially for teenage girls, at a school where one girl already put herself in the hospital wing trying to cure her completely natural acne.