Another tidbit on the Cloak

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

The Cloak makes one disconnected from other people, right?

So that effect is probably mitigated in respect to, and only to, people who are under it with you. People you share it with, if you share it with anyone.

So Hermione and Ron are more real to Harry than anyone else.

And... remember us complaining in DH9 that Harry's indifferent to the Weasleys' fate, the family that had taken him in and treated him as their own, until he thinks of Ginny?

He was ordered to keep his cloak on his person at all times the previous spring, right? If you wanted to snog your girlfriend without ticking off her big brother, your best friend, by being too blatent about it, what would you do?

So that's why Ginny's more real to him afterwards than most people.

Comments

[oryx_leucoryx]

And James must have shared it with his very close associates back in the day.

[hwyla.livejournal.com]

Well, we know Lily knew about it. She mentions it in the letter to Sirius. Note that she doesn't say anything about James slipping out the back door in stag form, so she probably wasn't told THAT secret, but she does mention the cloak. I bet they were smooching under it as well.

[oneandthetruth.livejournal.com]

Yes, because there's nothing at all homoerotic about several boys grouping under a womb-like object for the purpose of stalking and harassing another boy.

It occurs to me as I write this that the Hallows are a ghastly parody of reproduction: There's the phallic wand, the womb-like cloak (all-encompassing and all-covering, just like a womb), and the embryonic stone. But instead of giving life, they bring death. That's really sick.

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

What a nasty,and insightful idea!

Well, both ideas insightful, and the second particularly nasty.

The second brother spends his whole life gestating, then. ("Hiding in my room, safe within my womb, I touch no one and no one touches me"--isn't that the line from Simon & Garfunkel, "I am a Rock"?)

And note that (although Albus the Ever-Wise said at one point that the Cloak was sometimes passed "mother to daughter" as well as "father to son"--and indeed it had to have passed at least once to a woman, to pass out of the Peverell name-line--if it was originally owned by a Peverell), all the owners of those objects ever listed, and all the people we see really interested in, the Hallows, are men.

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

Now I'm thinking harder about your first point.

Huddling under the cloak together while they wait for their designated target could just be James and Sirius's way of snatching a grope with each other without admitting what they are doing, of course.

Only I'm suddenly wondering about... pulling pigtails.

Is the suppressed homoeroticism ONLY between James and Sirius (and Peter's obvious unrequited crush on James)?

I mean, teen Snape is described (by Harry, who hates him) as physically unprepossessing. But the Wizarding culture trains to value magical power above any other attribute.

As in, every Drarry shipper in the world reads Harry's stalking and harassing of Draco as evidence for his suppressed, unable-to-be-expressed-in-any-other way, erotic fascination with the other boy.

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

Or, with his very close associate. With Sirius. A reinforcement of the two, plus one, plus one grouping Jodel postulated as the Marauder's internal dynamic.

[oryx_leucoryx]

Did Peter manage to work his way into a cloak-bond with either James or Sirius just before Dumbles 'borrowed' the cloak?

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

Oi, Wormy, a rat's small enough that no one will notice you anyhow! Just transform already!

So, I think not.

[dracasadiablo.livejournal.com]

I always figured that H/G, for lack of a better word, romance is primarily based on some kind of a twisted Voldy!soul part host longing / connection thing. Harry lived his whole life with part of Vold's soul in him, had this special connection to Voldy; and then he lost it. Ginny had a connection to diary!Tom, he/it siphoned her soul / possessed her; and then it went away. So, really to each other they are the closest they can come to that connection again.
It's chilling and horrible but (to me) it almost sounds better then the alternative. "Possession twisted them" as opposed to "Harry wanted to have and own Lily v2, Ginny was obsessed with the The Boy Who Lived and had to have him".

But this makes sense to me. It explains why Hermione and Ron are only frineds Harry have (or why the nobody from the Trio ever bother making other frineds), why Hermione and Ron ended together and why Harry / Ginny happened too.

[oneandthetruth.livejournal.com]

Aaaggghhh! You figured it out! That's the explanation I came up with in my sporking, in a chapter I haven't posted yet, for why HP/GW works.

[terri-testing.livejournal.com]

Hrrgh! (That's a snort of laughter at one's response to this.)

The H/G Voldie-bond makes sense. Not sure about Ron & Hermione--are you saying the cloak-bond made them the only possible alternatives for each other?

Shivers, remembering the description of Black & Potter--couble act, closer than brothers...

[mary-j-59.livejournal.com]

This is brilliant - and interesting comments, too. However, one of the things that bothered me most about the cloak? That Harry did not give it to Ginny, if he cared about her so much. This is even more true about the map, of course, which fits Mr. Weasley's definition of a dark object to a T. The young girl could really have used both these objects - the map, especially. But Harry doesn't even think of getting them to her. Instead, he sits around watching her dot on the map while she suffers the Carrows and tries to help Neville's resistance.

Yes, our Harry is the embodiment of love, isn't he?

[oryx_leucoryx]

Terri, I attempted to respond to you on 'Training, part 4.5', but either my browser or LiveJournal wouldn't let it post.