[identity profile] condwiramurs.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
In poking around more while researching stuff for my coming discussion of Severus and Voldemort for Indestructible, I discovered a curious little fact that seems fitting.

In "Indestructible Intermezzo II - Etymological Excursus," I noted that:

"Our poison synonym, ‘toxic,’ on the other hand, derives ultimately from the Greek word for bow, toxon: the term toxicon pharmakon referred to the poison smeared on arrows, and was borrowed into Latin as toxicum, ‘poison.’ Meanwhile the probably-Scythian word for bow that entered Greek as toxon was also borrowed directly into Latin as taxus, the Latin word for ‘yew.’ A tree long associated with both death and resurrection, and from whose wood, of course, Voldemort got his wand."

And today, while researching the yew tree, I found an unexpected connection back to Severus.

All species of yew tree are known to contain varieties of a highly toxic class of alkaloids called taxanes. Every part of the tree other than the flesh of the red berry-like arils contains these toxins, including the seeds, wood, and leaves. Though the birds who eat the arils and spread the seeds are generally unable to break down the seeds and be affected by the poison, and larvae of a few species of moth and butterfly will eat yew foliage, to most animals consuming yew is fatally poisonous. Human beings consuming yew 'berries' without removing the seeds have died, and cattle and horses have been found dead near yew trees after trying to eat the leaves.

There does, however, seem to be an exception to this rule. Deer are able to break down the toxin, and so will eat the leaves of yew trees. Indeed, they graze so freely on yew that in the wild yew trees are commonly found only on steep slopes inaccessible to deer.

Apparently deer can eat death and live.

You can't make this stuff up.

Hurm.

Date: 2015-09-15 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vermouth1991.livejournal.com
(That's Rorschach-speak for "Ingenious", by the way. :) )

Date: 2015-09-15 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
That's awesome! (And I certainly didn't know it. I have a whole half-formed essay in mind about that term "death eater" and how much it bothers me, btw.)

Date: 2015-09-15 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
Okay. I don't really have an essay yet, only some half-formed thoughts and questions. Here they are:

John Granger, the Hogwarts Professor, believes "Death Eater" is a term in OPPOSITION to those Christians who "Eat life" at communion. I can't agree. Here's why:
1. Unlike in Tolkien or Lewis, there is no sense of the sacred in the "Potter" books, and certainly no analogue to Communion as a sacred and life-giving meal (Tolkien's Lembas, Lewis's water from the rock, from Aslan's footprint, from the stream in Aslan's country, and so on.) There is not even, as I read the "Potter" books, the sense of communal meals as sharing in love, trust, and dignity. Or do you find any of those things at the Weasely or Dursley dinner tables?
2. There's also no sense of the sacred at all, IMHO. No sense that magic itself might represent something numinous.
3. And then there's what Voldemort is searching for - eternal life. And what does Jesus promise his followers, especially those who eat his flesh and drink his blood?

I think you can see where I'm going with this. It makes me very uncomfortable. BTW, I do think Jodel/Red Hen is right that the majority of the Death Eaters were probably followers of the "old religion" - Catholicism. Certainly I read Snape as Catholic, even more strongly than I read him as Jewish!

Just my two cents!

Date: 2015-09-16 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danajsparks.livejournal.com
Just thinking.... "to eat" can also have the connotations of "to destroy, consume, use up" and "to corrode, erode, to wear away."

Date: 2015-09-16 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danajsparks.livejournal.com
----There does, however, seem to be an exception to this rule. Deer are able to break down the toxin, and so will eat the leaves of yew trees. Indeed, they graze so freely on yew that in the wild yew trees are commonly found only on steep slopes inaccessible to deer.

Apparently deer can eat death and live.


I like how this connects to Severus, but I'm wondering if it means anything for Harry and James. I think it sort of works for Harry, with his uncanny survival of multiple AK's, but I'm not sure about James. Maybe that he could survive werewolf bites in his stag form?

Date: 2015-09-17 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
You're right; it seems to fit Harry very well, but not James, unless he could survive werewolf bites as a stag.

I do wish we knew more about the werewolf caper!

Date: 2015-09-17 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
We do know James was a deer Animagus, which means he experienced being a deer. Did deer!James eat death and survive?

Date: 2015-09-18 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danajsparks.livejournal.com
Ha! That would make James literally a death eater. :D

Date: 2015-09-25 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
According to Rowling, James's patronus was a nose biting teapot or teacup - I forget which. Definitely not a deer!

Date: 2015-09-25 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
I love this!

Eating death...

Date: 2015-10-03 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com
There's also the Monarch butterfly, which feeds on poisonous plants and stores the poison in its own body, so predators will leave it alone....

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