[identity profile] sweettalkeress.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
This is an idea that came to me as I was tearing apart a children's book for another comm.

We all know that it's common in the Harry Potter fandom to portray Snape as mean, morally-degenerate, creepy, cowardly, and pretty much any other negative you can come up with. We on this comm have also spent large amounts of time debunking these assertions, insisting that actually, he's not as bad as he's commonly made out to be.

Here's the thing, though: even if you DID accept that Snape was just that nasty and evil and horrible, that's not his fault--it's the fault of the series. And it doesn't actually paint the series in an especially good light, because it implies that teachers who you don't get along with must automatically be evil or morally backwards. Remember: Harry takes an extreme dislike to Snape from their first meeting, just because Snape was generically snide and intimidating to him. It's one thing for Harry to dislike a teacher, because that happens to the best of us (particularly at the age Harry is). But to portray the teacher as evil because of it?

But that is pretty much the trend in the series. Teachers Harry likes, or who are nice to him, are generally portrayed as heroes or at least reasonably pleasant, whereas those Harry takes a disliking to are nearly always presented as villains: Lockhart, Umbridge, etc. And even when they're not (see, for instance, Trelawney and arguably Slughorn), they're generally treated as rather pathetic, so Harry doesn't have to take them very seriously. The overarching pattern this creates implies that if you don't get along with a teacher it's because that teacher is evil or morally weak-willed, or that it's generally all the teacher's fault that they're not bending over backwards to please you. And while you could argue that this is all the Harry filter, it's never really challenged at any point in the story.

Now, I am all for the notion that teachers should look after the well-being of their students; but the fact of the matter is, students can't always expect that to happen. It's great when it does, but sooner or later every student comes upon a teacher who for whatever reason doesn't click with them, either because that particular teaching style just doesn't work with that particular student, or the institution is corrupt, or the teacher is careless. I know it's happened to me a couple times over. Some of the teachers I've had bad experiences with were careless, but I wouldn't say I thought any of them were evil.

And remember: this is a series that targets children and young teenagers. It doesn't do them any favors to be presenting them with a narrative that states that any teacher they don't get along with is evil. The notion that Snape must be a horrible person suffering from trauma and acting out of some misplaced selfish desire is a testament to the story's inability to portray anything Harry doesn't like in a positive or even a neutral light, not a convincing portrayal of a disagreeable character (and I have many, MANY convincing potrayals of disagreeable characters that I could use as a baseline).

Date: 2015-10-25 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
Severus has the students learn the theory through the essays they are required to write for his class. I'm wondering if he got his students to advance faster than the Ministry expects by careful curriculum design - by choosing which potion to teach when based on which skills they develop in the brewer.

Date: 2015-10-27 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mage-989.livejournal.com
I'm wondering if he doesn't use his improved versions too when he teaches. He puts the instructions on the board he could easily modify them from the Ministry standards to have his students achieve better results immediately.

In fact I would have loved to see Snape teach a NEWT level potions class (without the Harry filter) because all the students there have achieved the grades he wants to see and are they because they genuinely want to learn the subject for their careers and so forth. He might be far more open to discussion and applying theory in the classroom - "My instructions differ from the textbook and have given you better results, which one of you dunderheads can tell me why that is?" - rather than hovering over everyone because he has to worry that someone isn't paying attention and going to blow up themselves and their classmates in the process.

Date: 2015-10-28 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jana-ch.livejournal.com
Snape’s NEWT students adore him. They go orgasmic with pride when he snarls, “Adequate!”, and wear t-shirts that say Not a Dunderhead, and have a wild party at the end of the year for the Snape Survivors. There is no prouder or more exclusive clique in Hogwarts than Snape’s seventh-year Potions class.

Date: 2015-10-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwyla.livejournal.com
Of course Snape uses his improved versions on the board. It wasn't until Hermione had to use the versions in the books that she suddenly was making imperfect potions. She didn't become lax. She no longer had the best instructions.

Date: 2015-10-28 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
While that is one possibility, the alternative is that the potions brewed in 6th year are much more fussy, but year 1-5 potions are easy and robust enough that Hermione's technique produced good results with the standard instructions.

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