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* Rowling tells us that the duo soon managed to find “a way of getting back at Malfoy”, because that phrasing makes their rôle sound much better and more active than “a totally undeserved gift literally fell into Harry’s lap” would.

* I like the way McGonagall says “I don’t want everybody knowing you’ve got a broomstick or they’ll all want one”; presumably “I’ve blatantly violated the rules to favour you but don’t let the peons know or they might complain” was considered too blunt.

* Of course, Harry will totally forget this scene come CS, when he gets all superior and self-righteous about Draco’s father buying brooms for the Slytherin team.

* Malfoy feels Harry’s package and works out it’s a broomstick. Because apparently, its being the size and shape of a broomstick wasn’t enough to clue him in.

* Why is Flitwick happy at Harry’s new present? If anything he should be annoyed because McGonagall’s just broken the rules to favour a rival quidditch team.

* I know it’s been said here many, many times before, but it really is ridiculous that catching the golden snitch nets your team 150 points. IMHO the muggle quidditch rules are much more sensible when they make it only worth 30.

* About the only explanation I can think of is that quidditch originally involved only the seekers, but people got bored looking at people just hovering around until the snitch appeared, so the other players were added as a kind of on-pitch entertainment to give the spectators something to watch in the meantime. But because quidditch was really just a game of seekers and people didn’t want to change this, they made sure that the snitch was worth such a vast number of points that the seekers were still the only players who mattered.

* Having those bludgers flying around sounds rather dangerous. Aside from the risk of concussion or broken bones, it’s a wonder there aren’t more injuries from people getting knocked off their broomsticks, especially since there doesn’t seem to be any netting or magic spells to break their fall.

* “I think the record is three months, they had to keep bringing on substitutes so the players could get some sleep.” Well, obviously that game didn’t involve the Gryffindor team, because they never bother with substitutes. Sleep is for the weak!

* I’m surprised that wizards have heard of anything so mundane as golf balls.

* “His lessons, too, were becoming more and more interesting now that they had mastered the basics.” Not that we’re ever given any indication as to what “the basics” might consist of – pretty much all magic in this world seems to consist of pointing your wand and saying a few mock-Latin words, with no real sense of connexion or progression between the different spells.

* Also, if I were at Hogwarts, I reckon I’d find even the basics of learning magic to be pretty interesting. Y’know, because I’d be learning actual magic spells.

* “Seamus got so impatient that he prodded [his feather] with his wand and set fire to it – Harry had to put it out with his hat.” Sadly his hat was now too charred and burnt to be wearable, which is why it never appears in the series again.

* Watch out, people, there’s a troll in the dungeons! Man, Hogwarts must have really good Wi-Fi if they can get a signal all the way down there…

* I’m half-surprised Harry and Ron don’t leave Hermione alone with the troll, as punishment for screaming like a coward. Come on, girl, face death like a Gryffindor!

* Given that the troll is supposedly twelve feet tall, Harry must have jumped very high to end up clinging onto its neck. At least we know that, if the auror job doesn’t work out, he can always find a career as a professional high-jumper.

* So the troll is twelve feet tall, and there’s enough space between it and the ceiling for the club (which is presumably several feet long itself) to build up enough momentum to knock out the troll on impact. This room must be unusually large for a toilet cubicle.

* Why on earth does Hermione feel the need to lie about what happened? Just tell the truth – that she was in the toilet so Harry and Ron came to warn her about the troll and take her back to the dormitory. No rule-breaking or recklessness of any kind, and the boys still get to look heroic for saving her.

* “Hermione was the last person to do anything against the rules,” until the latter half of the series, when she’ll be kidnapping, blackmailing and scarring people with wild abandon.

* “‘Good of her to get us out of trouble,’ Ron admitted.” Very true, Ron, albeit with the slight difficulty that Hermione didn’t get you out of trouble at all, rendering her lie completely pointless.

* Actually, come to think of it, isn’t compulsive lying one of the symptoms of psychopathy? Is this chapter actually evidence for psycho!Hermione?

* “There are some things you can’t share without ending up liking each other, and knocking out a twelve-foot mountain troll is one of them.” But forming a secret society in opposition to a sadistic and dictatorial government official isn’t. Sorry, Zacharias.

Date: 2016-05-21 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josephinestone.livejournal.com
Why on earth does Hermione feel the need to lie about what happened? Just tell the truth – that she was in the toilet so Harry and Ron came to warn her about the troll and take her back to the dormitory. No rule-breaking or recklessness of any kind, and the boys still get to look heroic for saving her.

This never made sense to me. You can't even blame this on them being 11. You don't lie if you aren't trying to hide something. Was she trying to hide that she was crying in the bathroom? Everyone already knew.

Date: 2016-05-21 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwyla.livejournal.com
Well - not everyone knew it. Presumably, the teachers didn't or they would have sent someone to get her before the boys found her.

And I wouldn't think the prefects knew or Percy would have said something himself to a teacher. He would consider it his 'duty'.

I doubt it really was known outside any girls who had seen her in the restroom or had heard the gossip about it.

It does seem a little strange that none of the teachers have wondered why a student such as Hermione might miss the rest of her classes. They apparently didn't bother to see if she was in the infirmary. but seem to have just assumed that was where she was.

If not, then shame on the teachers for not noticing not only her absence from classes, but also from the feast.

Date: 2016-05-22 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
Well, a Headmaster and a group of teachers - one of whom the head of House - who apparently didn't notice that the Slytherin dorm is in the dungeons after hearing "Troll in the dungeons", surely wouldn't notice a missing first year. Either that or they thought that maybe they would get rid of the EVIL house in one fell swoop.

Edited: sorry, I forgot the key word 'who' and the thing didn't make sense.
Edited Date: 2016-05-22 07:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-05-23 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwyla.livejournal.com
I really must go reread this chapter! I just have to find my books again. Do we know exactly when Snape slips out of the room to head for Fluffy? It does seem rather out of character for him to miss something like that regarding his Slytherins. I can only suppose that keeping Quirrel from getting the Stone seemed even more dangerous at the time.

It being the trio's first 'adventure', I suppose it might not be too surprising that he wasn't paying specific attention to Hermione. It had not yet become evident that a missing Hermione might mean Harry was off involved in a death-defying adventure. After all, they weren't yet friends.

I was thinking more that it seems surprising that ALL the teachers just presumably assumed she was in the infirmary. What other excuse could she have for missing all her classes? And especially for missing the feast.

It is most surprising that Snape seems to have accepted it. You would think from his reputation that he would be eager to find a Gryffindor doing someone worthy of taking points. However, Halloween was on a Thursday (checked the Lexicon) and Potions was on Fridays, so it is doubtful that Snape knew she was missing classes before the feast.

Date: 2016-05-23 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
If my memory's correct we don't know when Snape, or anybody else who's not Harry moves.

No, of course Snape wouldn't know nor care about Miss Hand-in-the-air, but her fellow Gryffindoor first year should, I mean everybody knew who she was - and, yes, disliked her, but this is a matter of life and death! - and that she's wasn't at the table, but do we hear a peep from Parvati or Lavender? After the loud boy had insulted her so badly? Nope.

I'll never get over the fact that apparently both Slytherin and Hufflepuff are the suicidal houses, with the blessing of their own heads of house too. Not one voice saying: "Our house's in the dungeon/the basenment! Why are you sending us to the troll?" *SIGH*

ETA: sorry, this computer's keyboard is utter shite. I apologise for the double alert.
Edited Date: 2016-05-23 07:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-05-23 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aikaterini.livejournal.com
/I like the way McGonagall says “I don’t want everybody knowing you’ve got a broomstick/

So, she'll send it in a broom-shaped package to the Great Hall where everyone can see it, as opposed to telling Harry to come by her office to pick it up?

/Why is Flitwick happy at Harry’s new present? If anything he should be annoyed because McGonagall’s just broken the rules to favour a rival quidditch team./

Protagonist-Centered Morality? Or maybe it's the same reasoning for why the Hufflepuffs and Ravenclaws root for Gryffindor against Slytherin, even after Gryffindor keeps winning.

/Having those bludgers flying around sounds rather dangerous. Aside from the risk of concussion or broken bones, it’s a wonder there aren’t more injuries from people getting knocked off their broomsticks, especially since there doesn’t seem to be any netting or magic spells to break their fall./

Aren't they dangerous to the audience as well? Unless I'm forgetting that there was a mention of a magical force field or something to keep the audience from being hit by bludgers.

/“There are some things you can’t share without ending up liking each other, and knocking out a twelve-foot mountain troll is one of them.” But forming a secret society in opposition to a sadistic and dictatorial government official isn’t./

Neither is facing a unicorn-killer together in the middle of the Forbidden Forest at night. Sorry, Draco.
Edited Date: 2016-05-23 03:06 pm (UTC)

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