Prisoner of Azkaban does a good impression of being one of the best-constructed books of the series, as long as you are willing to smile and nod at time-travel shenanigans (which you pretty much have to in any book where time travel appears). But these gaping chasms keep opening up every time I poke at it. For example, Sirius and the mail.
He apparently has no trouble using a friendly cat to draw funds from his bank account so he can mail-order an expensive racing broom. Magic Amazon must be great. (Just one tap with your wand! Except it must be even easier, since cats don't carry wands...) Fine, maybe that the goblins facilitated this because helping a wanted criminal was a great opportunity to subvert wizarding desires or something.
But it never occurred to Sirius to send Dumbledore or Remus a letter saying that Peter was the real Secret-Keeper all along, is a rat Animagus, and is now in hiding as the Weasley boy's pet, which Sirius realized when he saw the rat's picture in the Daily Prophet?
Sure, it sounds implausible, but it would cost them nothing to look at the picture so Remus could confirm that okay, it does maybe look like Peter. It would likewise cost them nothing cast that spell that reverts Animagi to their human forms on Scabbers. If he's a real rat, it shouldn't hurt him. If he isn't, well, they've just caught a secret Death Eater who spends his days in the company of the Boy Who Lived. They could probably even manage this without alerting Ron, if they're worried about how it looks if Scabbers is just a rat. A house-elf could keep an eye on Scabbers and alert Dumbledore the next time Scabbers is napping in the dorm alone so Dumbledore can pop in secretly and test the spell, for example.
So why didn't Sirius try this at any point during the ten-plus months between his escape and the Shrieking Shack confrontation? I mean, really. He had the time, insight, and attention span to worry about his godson's Quidditch equipment troubles and help, but it never occurred to him to warn anyone that Peter was a traitor and a potential threat to Harry?
Even if they ignore Sirius's letter, it probably doesn't hurt Sirius. They already know he's lurking in the vicinity and has mysterious ways of doing things he shouldn't be able to, so sending a letter from Hogsmeade gives away nothing new. They're very unlikely to go explain to what they think is a real rat that he's suspected of being a human but don't worry, they don't believe a word of it, so Peter shouldn't get tipped off either. At worst, they might start keeping an eye on the rat surreptitiously--and would that be bad, if it means they might notice him doing something suspiciously un-ratlike? (Gnawing his leg until it bleeds and smearing it about and then planting cat hair on the smears before running away, for example.)
Okay, maybe it occurred to him and he didn't think the attempt would cause harm even if he failed. Then the reason he didn't try would be...? Um. I'm struggling to think of reasons that don't make at least one character look really bad.
Sirius might have prioritized getting a chance at personal vengeance over anything else. That is, he didn't want anyone else capturing Peter and turning him over to the authorities--he wanted to kill Peter, no matter the cost.
Or maybe he couldn't think of a way to explain Peter's Animagus ability to Dumbledore without spilling the beans about how they all let Remus roam free in school, and didn't want to get Remus in Azkaban-worthy trouble. But then why not warn Remus directly and let Remus investigate? Or come up with a plausible story for Dumbledore, or find a way to let Crookshanks catch Scabbers, or something. At least Remus would be on his guard, which is surely better than nothing.
Or he might have believed that Remus had been in league with Peter all along, and didn't want to risk tipping him off. But in this case, he'd also have to believe that Dumbledore would be incapable of handling things and would confront Remus before examining Scabbers and then leave Remus alone to warn his confederate or something equally disastrous. In which case you have to wonder exactly how bad a vigilante leader Dumbledore was during the first war.
Is there any scenario that makes sense and doesn't make at least one character look even worse than we thought?
He apparently has no trouble using a friendly cat to draw funds from his bank account so he can mail-order an expensive racing broom. Magic Amazon must be great. (Just one tap with your wand! Except it must be even easier, since cats don't carry wands...) Fine, maybe that the goblins facilitated this because helping a wanted criminal was a great opportunity to subvert wizarding desires or something.
But it never occurred to Sirius to send Dumbledore or Remus a letter saying that Peter was the real Secret-Keeper all along, is a rat Animagus, and is now in hiding as the Weasley boy's pet, which Sirius realized when he saw the rat's picture in the Daily Prophet?
Sure, it sounds implausible, but it would cost them nothing to look at the picture so Remus could confirm that okay, it does maybe look like Peter. It would likewise cost them nothing cast that spell that reverts Animagi to their human forms on Scabbers. If he's a real rat, it shouldn't hurt him. If he isn't, well, they've just caught a secret Death Eater who spends his days in the company of the Boy Who Lived. They could probably even manage this without alerting Ron, if they're worried about how it looks if Scabbers is just a rat. A house-elf could keep an eye on Scabbers and alert Dumbledore the next time Scabbers is napping in the dorm alone so Dumbledore can pop in secretly and test the spell, for example.
So why didn't Sirius try this at any point during the ten-plus months between his escape and the Shrieking Shack confrontation? I mean, really. He had the time, insight, and attention span to worry about his godson's Quidditch equipment troubles and help, but it never occurred to him to warn anyone that Peter was a traitor and a potential threat to Harry?
Even if they ignore Sirius's letter, it probably doesn't hurt Sirius. They already know he's lurking in the vicinity and has mysterious ways of doing things he shouldn't be able to, so sending a letter from Hogsmeade gives away nothing new. They're very unlikely to go explain to what they think is a real rat that he's suspected of being a human but don't worry, they don't believe a word of it, so Peter shouldn't get tipped off either. At worst, they might start keeping an eye on the rat surreptitiously--and would that be bad, if it means they might notice him doing something suspiciously un-ratlike? (Gnawing his leg until it bleeds and smearing it about and then planting cat hair on the smears before running away, for example.)
Okay, maybe it occurred to him and he didn't think the attempt would cause harm even if he failed. Then the reason he didn't try would be...? Um. I'm struggling to think of reasons that don't make at least one character look really bad.
Sirius might have prioritized getting a chance at personal vengeance over anything else. That is, he didn't want anyone else capturing Peter and turning him over to the authorities--he wanted to kill Peter, no matter the cost.
Or maybe he couldn't think of a way to explain Peter's Animagus ability to Dumbledore without spilling the beans about how they all let Remus roam free in school, and didn't want to get Remus in Azkaban-worthy trouble. But then why not warn Remus directly and let Remus investigate? Or come up with a plausible story for Dumbledore, or find a way to let Crookshanks catch Scabbers, or something. At least Remus would be on his guard, which is surely better than nothing.
Or he might have believed that Remus had been in league with Peter all along, and didn't want to risk tipping him off. But in this case, he'd also have to believe that Dumbledore would be incapable of handling things and would confront Remus before examining Scabbers and then leave Remus alone to warn his confederate or something equally disastrous. In which case you have to wonder exactly how bad a vigilante leader Dumbledore was during the first war.
Is there any scenario that makes sense and doesn't make at least one character look even worse than we thought?
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Date: 2022-02-20 08:38 am (UTC)What's the canon on Dumbledore's knowledge of Sirius's circumstances? Did he know that Sirius was innocent all along? Did he cast the Fidelius and therefore know the identity of the secret keeper? I might be getting mixed up with all the conspiracy theory fanfics I read ... :-)
Otherwise, yeah, just another example of a character not doing X because either (a) Rowling didn't (bother to) think of X, or (b) Rowling didn't allow the character to think of X because that would destroy her story.
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Date: 2022-02-20 11:17 pm (UTC)Not knowing is probably better than knowing all along and letting Sirius rot anyway, so Dumbledore should be grateful we're only accusing him of cluelessness ;-) In fairness, even this many years later Sirius is leading by confessing to Harry that it was totally his fault that James and Lily died and only explaining because for some reason all three kids let him and Remus talk endlessly about it, so he probably sounded like he was confessing at the time, too.
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Date: 2022-03-01 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-03-05 04:19 pm (UTC)Well, we know that DADA teaching focuses on spells, not strategy or tactics (other than Umbridge's attempt to teach the good idea of non-violent conflict resolution for transparently bad reasons), and even that has been a failure for decades. Maybe the Ministry censored every last publication on higher-level defense planning, and were so wildly successful that no one even remembers the books were ever written, let alone the information they contained about how to be a rebel cell or ruthless leader or whatever?
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Date: 2022-03-04 07:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-03-05 02:37 am (UTC)Mistrusting both Dumbledore and Remus seems like a slightly stronger possibility. Dumbledore did leave him to rot. And he might worry that Peter and Remus were working together all along. Except he instantly trusts Remus when they actually meet. And it's hard to imagine that the downside if they don't believe him would be that bad, or that tipping them off would cause them to change their plans if they were evil since they already knew he was in the area and possibly after them, so why not give it a shot?
Unless he's afraid Dumbledore has developed a magical way to track a letter back to its sender somehow even if the sender has moved to a different cave outside of town? Or curse the sender?
Maybe "don't ask for help, it's weak and un-Gryffindor" really is it, sadly. Or he really does want vengeance no matter the cost.
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Date: 2022-03-06 04:58 am (UTC)It doesn't, however, explain Sirius's failure to clue anyone else in about Peter, much less how Feline Amazon works. I guess both Sirius and Remus will go to any length to avoid revealing their youthful crimes as part of the Marauders, no matter who suffers from their silence.
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Date: 2022-03-07 03:55 am (UTC)As it happens, Dumbledore would rather cover it up and force Remus into spying on the werewolves, but they probably couldn't count on that. Not after seeing how he didn't even try to investigate Sirius, let alone defend him.
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Date: 2022-03-07 10:54 pm (UTC)Juvenile Court?
Date: 2022-03-08 09:10 pm (UTC)Because it's implied that the crimes continued through 7th year, when they were adults.
Moreover, Sirius's crime of being an unregistered Animagus continues to the present day....
(I did read a fanfic in which Sirius survived and got his trial, post-war. He was sentenced to time served plus an additional decade in Azkaban.)
Something else that may be relevant: at the time James and Sirius were committing crimes in Hogsmeade, they may well have expected that if they were caught, they'd be let off. (So long as they stopped short of murder, which they were fully confident they could do.)
The Potter heir and a Black, even if disinherited, after all!
(And assumed their families could/would protect the other two as well.)
Sirius might well have gone so quietly with the Aurors because he assumed he'd be kept overnight and released, no matter what they thought he'd done. It might have been a serious shock to him when Walburga either wouldn't or couldn't get him sprung.
So he might, once out of Azkaban and pursuing Peter, have realized that if his name didn't save him THEN, it wouldn't save him if his true crimes were now uncovered.
In which case his ONLY chance of safety is to kill Peter, return him to human form, and fudge the tale of how Peter managed to diddle those Muggle witnesses into believing he'd been killed.
Any story that includes Peter's Animagus ability is going to be trouble for him.
Which, huh. Also explains why he never holds it against Dumbles in books 4 & 5 that Dumbles doesn't ever clear his name. He knows his name is unclearable, except so far as betraying James is concerned.
Re: Juvenile Court?
Date: 2022-03-09 03:13 am (UTC)If he and Crookshanks had managed to kill Peter without witnesses, he might even have gotten away with a fudge that included Peter's ability without mentioning his own, if shrugging and saying Peter must have Apparated away really quickly at just the right second wouldn't fly. "I'm sure I saw a rat scurrying around at a meeting Peter wasn't at, and next thing we knew Voldemort had suddenly figured out how to undermine the Bones family's security..."
But then he and Remus couldn't bear to have Harry think badly of them and spilled--well, not the whole story, but more of it than they might have planned.
Re: Juvenile Court?
Date: 2022-03-09 08:25 pm (UTC)We don't have any information on how Juveniles are treated differently. Harry is able to agree to the contract in GoF.
His "Guardians" the Dursleys were not there when Harry was brought before the Wizengamot. (They would have hurt Harry rather than help, so he wouldn't want them.) Was that unusual? Do only Wizard parent/guardians count?
Is there any kind of Juvenile Hall?
Re: Juvenile Court?
Date: 2022-03-09 09:57 pm (UTC)The Triwizard Tournament contract might be a special case. Limiting entrants to legal adults seems to be a modern innovation. Harry might be able to make that contract (or have it made on his behalf, as it happens), but maybe he can't, say, buy a house or incorporate a business, because those just regular legal things rather than ancient magical contracts.
Sirius state on mind.
Date: 2022-03-09 08:35 pm (UTC)Sirius is in much better shape while on the run, than goes downhill in OoP.
Which I think does make sense. When he is on the run he is active. Being in danger is an adrenaline rush.
But being stuck at home is horrible for him. Alone with bad memories. His mother's portrait yelling at him. Kretcher muttering insults him under his breath. Listening in on meeting, but being unable to help.
Sirius doesn't strike me as a guy who is contact to sit at home curled up with a book.
He seems like the kind of person who the lockdown would be very hard. He reminds me of someone I know who the lockdowns was extremely difficult. Not seeing people and being able to do things was not good for his mental health.
Re: Sirius state on mind.
Date: 2022-03-09 09:42 pm (UTC)Which means he does need a reason other than "Azkaban-induced impairment of executive functioning" not to have tried sending Remus or Dumbledore a note about Peter during this year, and I can't think of one which doesn't mean something bad about at least one character, sadly.
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Date: 2022-08-05 06:08 pm (UTC)But then again Sirius is finally free after 10 years of continuous psychological torture. I guess we should be happy he isn't a vegetable after all this time in Azkaban.
But from the third side, you have to wonder what kind of WW parent wouldn't be suspicious when their kid's pet rat was alive for over 10 years.
I honestly think there is no way to explain PoA reasonably without making anyone insane/dumb/manipulative.
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Date: 2022-08-06 12:37 am (UTC)Maybe she should have played up their suspicion of each other more. Have Sirius outright say that he was sure Remus and Peter were working together all along until [something persuasive] convinced him otherwise at the last minute. Have him say he didn't even trust Dumbledore since Dumbledore couldn't or wouldn't identify the spy, and then grudgingly rejoin the Order for lack of better options (and then once Harry reads that letter in DH, he realizes Sirius had another reason not to trust the guy). Or something. I'm sure she and her editor could have made it work with a few background tweaks.
The pet shop owner says something about magically-bred rats maybe having longer lifespans, I think? Arthur and Molly are deeply immersed in wizarding culture, so they might have just plain forgotten that rats you find in the garden shouldn't live as long as the "normal" magical ones you can buy. Especially while wrangling seven kids, two of whom are Fred and George. They were probably just glad the twins didn't beat this pet to death too and got on with overworking their elderly post owl.