[identity profile] sweettalkeress.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
So I looked at ONTD's "Ten of the most Epidemically Overrated Books," and was incensed to find that books like On the Road and The Great Gatsby made the list but the Harry Potter series didn't (though at least the Twilight series did). I mean really, Harry Potter is the epitome of an overrated book series, given that there are people seriously making the point that it's so deep and meaningful and needs to be read in AP English classes. Never mind that it's a children's book series!

Well, these were the people who said that a bunch of authors besides Rowling disliked the idea of fanfiction without bothering to consider WHY they might feel that way (specifically, that Rowling is the only one who's all that fandom savvy because she's modern in a way that the others aren't). Maybe they just think Rowling is their darling author too, and you can't say anything bad about her.

Date: 2012-05-30 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneandthetruth.livejournal.com
All I can tell you about why the STFU closed is what they put in their last mod post, which is quoted below in its entirety.

Dear the_hms_stfu members,

This comm has been running for a long time - we've been on JF since September 2005, and were on LJ before that. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince had just come out, and canon deniers were wanking up a storm. Gradually that died down, but the Snapewives were there to pick up the slack.

For a while, though, we've been running on empty. J. K. Rowling gave us the last piece of the canon in 2007, apart from little bits in interviews and the Scottish Book (and who knows when that's going to be published). The crazy shippers have dispersed or locked down, and the Snapewife fervor has been replaced by a kind of forced-but-determined refusal to make any sense. Gone are the days of total batshit insanity and really memorable wank.

And recently we've had a few wanks of our own. Kind of serious ones, too, that have gotten us on unfunny_fandom and made us look bad. That plus the unexceptional nature of what tends to get posted here has made us reconsider the future of this comm. We have decided that the_hms_stfu has had a good run, but it is time for it to close. There will be no new posts here, and you will have to go to dedfromsnake for your Snapewank fix.

Yours,

the mods

(ETA: Thanks for your kind words, you guys. We'll always have Paris!)


What that says to me is, (1) we don't have as many outlets for our mean-spirited ridicule any more, so things are getting boring, and (2) we've been embarrassed by having our fellow piranhas turn on us. Since we can dish it out but can't take it, we're shutting down.

Of course, DFS doesn't just concentrate on Snape-related stuff; it operates the same as STFU, so they can't even be honest and consistent about that.

They're really a pathetic bunch, not worthy of contempt, just sad head-shaking--kind of like Tush Limbo calling women who use birth-control pills sluts.
Edited Date: 2012-05-30 03:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-30 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
Alright, I'm going to Google to get more of the story, but if you could direct me to posts on the subject, please do. I'm very, very happy to hear that they've closed, and I'm joyfully dancing here. They were needlessly rude to their fellow fans and reading these two parts

recently we've had a few wanks of our own. Kind of serious ones, too, that have gotten us on unfunny_fandom and made us look bad
(Note: I'm sorry, but you people go into shires like Portkey, specific places where fans go to be left alone and enjoy themselves, and you raid their forums to mock them? You are bad. It's one thing if it's a public pan-fandom forum, but when you go to a place like Portkey, you're legit looking for things that will make you angry. That is inexcusably bullying and I defy you to state one reason why it's ok to do that. You can't. You're wrong. You are bullying and you know it and you know in your hearts that you were 100% in the wrong.)

For a while, though, we've been running on empty.

I think it serves them right. That's just what they deserve. Hah. How does it feel now, HMS? Not so much fun to be on the other side, is it? I hope while it was happening you thought about how you treated other people.

What, BTW, is The Scottish Book? Is that Book 7? Did they not like it? If they didn't, then that's hilarious and I have no sympathy. Again, they deserve everything they got. All the bad feelings they generated they got fed right back to them and I'm not one bit sorry.

Date: 2012-05-30 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
If so, I hope they read this comment.

To be honest, at this point, everyone on LJ has sated themselves and realized that what Suzy Q down the street ships has no impact on what they ship. LJ-Potter has (finally) largely grown up adopted the "ship and let ship" mentality.

Other sites with users who don't have to worry about being held accountable for what they say still have pockets of infants with "wah he made a face at me!" mentality. I don't know what blog you're talking about, and I don't want to know. They aren't fans of the book, whoever they are. Real fans don't get all bent out of shape over someone saying something "mean" about their book. Real fans don't waste their time looking for people who say "I don't like this about this book". Real fans can't be threatened by someone else's dislike of the series itself. Real fans spend their time immersed in the thing itself, not in the activity of other people.

(I hope this doesn't sound scold-y; I mean it to sound reassuring) Let's not spend any more of our word space on insecure people like that, because they literally have nothing to do with Harry Potter. They have to do with watching other people watch Harry Potter. We are enjoying the books our way, and nothing they say can change or undo that.
Edited Date: 2012-05-30 04:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-30 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
The Scottish Book was Rowling's nickname for the promised (or threatened :) encyclopedia. Currently no longer on the table.

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