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Because I was re-reading some old recaps in various places, and it suddenly struck me that there's an awful lot of speculation that if someone screwed up/deliberately skipped the contraceptive potion, that someone must have been Tonks. I've wondered about that possibility myself. It seems primarily based on two factors: (1) Tonks was pursuing Remus in the previous book, and he was reluctant for various and possibly-not-all-stated reasons, and (2) that's how the most reliable Muggle contraceptive method works.

Tonks was indeed pursuing Remus. She pressured him by debating the merits of their relationship in public, thus bringing more peer pressure to bear on his decision. But do we know her well enough to know whether she'd force a baby to participate in this drama? Hard to say, really - I'd be open to arguments either way. And since for the most part she only discusses her relationship issues in private with a very few people as far as we know during that whole year - granted Harry isn't around enough to provide reliable observation on that point, but at least she doesn't ever start telling the kids her woes - it's possible that the scene in the hospital wing was a stress-induced lapse on her part, if you want a more charitable reading.

So point 1 could go either way, and as for point 2, we can't rely on magical contraception being a perfect analogue of ours. Why couldn't they have a Spermus Mortalitus potion? (Or an easily-reversable Vasectomus or Fallopius Tie-us spell, for that matter... And yes these are all bad Latin, but so is JKR's.)

Just because Tonks ended up being happy about the results doesn't mean it was her actions that led to them.

And in canon, who is the person we know to have forgotten to take a very important potion at least once before, consequently endangering others and causing himself trouble as well?

Date: 2013-03-25 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] condwiramurs.livejournal.com
I am rather fond of Evil!Lupin theories....

Date: 2013-03-25 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
A variant: Back in Y6 Severus warned Remus that if he was going to have a relationship with Tonks he might want help modifying contraceptives to his werewolf physiology (remember Remus noting how well Severus prepared the Wolfsbane during his New Years Eve visit?). But after Severus killed Albus Remus decided Severus was just saying that to taunt him, so just went along with the standard potions.

Date: 2013-03-26 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 600ants.livejournal.com
That's quite possible (especially the part about normal contraceptives not working for werewolves). But all in all using ineffective contraception is the same as using none at all, no? Same reasons (laziness, carelessness, ignorance...), same results.

Date: 2013-03-26 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
Yes, but I think the detail gives it a Remus twist - that it was his opinion of Severus that he used as excuse to be irresponsible.

Date: 2013-03-26 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 600ants.livejournal.com
If only it was any other couple...

But Lupin doesn't want Tonks to like him, he wants to get rid of her. ;) In any case, it would have been easier for him to let *her* take care about contraception, and if there is one character known to consistently choose what's easy.... :-)
Anyway, it's the woman who runs the risk of pregnancy. Would Tonks risk getting pregnant from a random one night stand, or even rape? (after all there's a war going on)

- Tonks "forgot" hers and sabotaged Lupin's, because we're all like Merope in the end, don't you know.

Reminds me of my golddiger!Lily theory. You know, that Harry conceived so promptly was just a way to make sure James's money *will* go her way. :-) Hey, it's not *my* awful sexist prejudice! I'm just trying to think like Rowling. :)

I love the last two! :D Shame DEs and Lupin are too dumb and boring for that.

Date: 2013-03-28 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com
Not only that, Tonks is an active-duty Auror. How many active female Aurors do we see?

And she told us she aced her field trials for disguiase, as a Metamorphmagus. Everyone else had to rely on Glamours.

Or, um, Polyjuice.

How many witches out there regularly take Polyjuice, or regularly Morph into an entirely different being?

And when they morph back, what's the effect on that once-a-month steriility potion?

I mean, if I morph back into exactly the same physiological state I was in before the last change, that's one thing. As long as I've been Morphed for only an hour or two.

It would throw my monthly dose off by an hour, no big deal.

If I morph back into what I feel to be my standard (my mid-cycle top-of-the-world best), that's quite another..

From the point of view of a monthly, cycle-dependent potion.

I'm rather suspecting that Wolfsbane, too, might suddenly prove ineffective, if used on werewolves throwing their cycles off with Polyjuice, Metamorphmagicery, Animorphmageri, et al.

Date: 2013-04-10 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 600ants.livejournal.com
Sorry for the thread necrophilia. :)

That's stuff people would have noticed. I don't mean metamorphomagi or werewolves, just in general. Most muggles DO know that some medicaments can't be combined with each other (with milk, alcohol, ...), and what side-effects they have. And if they don't know, they go and ask an expert. And we know that wizarding world DOES have potions experts, so what's problem again? They were too lazy and irresponsible to really take care of everything in their power.
Edited Date: 2013-04-10 06:25 pm (UTC)

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