[identity profile] ladyzenobia.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
http://www.hypable.com/2014/02/01/jk-rowling-ron-hermione-relationship-regret-interview/

“I wrote the Hermione/Ron relationship as a form of wish fulfillment,” she says. “That’s how it was conceived, really. For reasons that have very little to do with literature and far more to do with me clinging to the plot as I first imagined it, Hermione ended up with Ron.”

Have you seen this? I think it's interesting that she said that she was clinging to the plot as she first imagined it. That explains a lot about the epilogue!

Date: 2014-02-04 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madderbrad.livejournal.com
Actually, someone over on loose_canon made a good point in that the trio, all of them, behave too much like siblings to generate any convincing romantic pairings whatsoever.

I think there's substantial grounds for this; on a H/Hr site a fan mentioned this too. Apparently Rowling's first notion of the overall story arc was to have Harry found by Mr. Granger and raised as a foster-brother to Hermione. I vaguely recall hearing about that over the years myself, I think it's true.

So a lot of that 'sibling' context might have stuck in her head when she was writing the books?

But they *weren't* siblings, so we H/Hr shippers were able to take that closeness - such as it was - and extrapolate it for our own ends. :-)

At least Ron fancied her (which Harry absolutely never did).

Could have been so easy for Rowling to change ... but yeah, in the canon it's clear he never did. "Like a sister", right?

And for that matter, Harry never found her any fun to be around, either. The narration comes right out and says as much in PoA -

GoF? When Ron splits from Harry over the latter's selection as a 'Champion'?

Date: 2014-02-04 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com
Right. Ron spent both of those books getting mad and stomping off from one or the other of his friends. First it was Hermione, then Harry.

Date: 2014-02-07 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terri-testing.livejournal.com
Actually, in GoF Harry says furiously to Hermione, "I don't miss him.."

But this was a downright lie. Harry liked Hermione very much, but she just wasn't the same as Ron. There was much less laughter and a lot more hanging around in the library when Hermione was your best friend.


Useful company (she was spending her time drilling him on his Accio, not on her homework), but not enjoyed.

Date: 2014-02-07 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madderbrad.livejournal.com
Yep. That 'lot less laughter' thing was a downer for H/Hr in book 4.

But that's okay. The next couple of books cancelled that out totally!

Interesting that in the full Rowling interview - a transcript was doing the rounds 9+ hours ago - Rowling throws a crumb to the faithful disciples she'd betrayed with her conversion to H/Hr by saying that Hermione has a need for a 'funny man'.

She seems to have forgotten how often Ron was a source of *unhappiness* for Hermione.

Anyway, kids need laughter but mature adults need so much more. Sorry Ron, Hermione's not for you.

Date: 2014-02-09 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nx74defiant.livejournal.com
Hermione has a need for a 'funny man'.

Did Hermione every find Ron funny?

Date: 2014-02-09 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madderbrad.livejournal.com
Did Hermione every find Ron funny?

I don't know. That's a good question; either 'yes', which just lets Rowling's comment remain afloat, or 'no', which will sink it. I'll have to ask.

I've been posing the same question regarding Harry - did Hermione ever find HIM funny - in a couple of places. I got a reply this morning saying yes, one such scene was in HBP:
    Actually, he made her laugh in HBP, of all books, since that was basically the nail in the coffin for us Harmony shippers. He and Hermione were in the library joking about Filch and Madam Pinz being in love because of all the love potions being used, and Pinz actually threw them out of the library for laughing too loud. :)
Which makes me happy, neatly countering this one last straw that Rowling threw to the drowning R/Hr fans.

But if it's also true that Hermione never laughed at Ron that makes things even more solid. A bit harder to prove a negative though.
Edited Date: 2014-02-09 02:50 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-09 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
Well, she stifled giggles when Ron made clopping noises that made Umbridge bolt upright in her hospital bed.

Date: 2014-02-09 07:47 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-23 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nx74defiant.livejournal.com
did Hermione ever find HIM funny - in a couple of places

JK really need to put in more of that. The first thing that comes to mind when I think of Hr/R is fighting.

We needed to see more of Ron being the one who could get her to relax, laugh and stop taking things so seriously when she become to stress out.

Date: 2014-02-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madderbrad.livejournal.com
We needed to see more of Ron being the one who could get her to relax, laugh and stop taking things so seriously when she become to stress out.

As is the case so often with HP those readers who desire any particular depth or meaning have to go inventing it for themselves, inserting it in the space between Rowling's words ... because she jolly well didn't write it!

I dare say the R/Hr shippers - are there any left? :-) - believe that it was just one long stream of laughter between Ron and Hermione every time Harry left the room. :-)

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