A Question

Jun. 18th, 2012 01:54 am
[identity profile] ladyzenobia.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
Hello! I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but since I came across the topic here, I thought it would be appropriate.

I was reading oryx_leucoryx's wonderful GoF chapter commentary and it was mentioned that Bellatrix/the Lestranges managed to talk their way out of Azkaban before attacking the Longbottoms. This is actually something I've come across before on various forums and when reading theories, but I can't find anything about it in the books. I tried looking for old interviews and it isn't mentioned there either as far as I can tell. So I was just wandering, how do you know this? I'd be very grateful if someone gave me a quote or something :)

Also, this is my first post here, so I'm sorry if I've made some grave error.

Date: 2012-06-27 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oryx_leucoryx
I will say that Sirius knew exactly where to find that blast mark, very quickly. And that since he was not sure Andromeda was blasted or not, I still tend to think all the marks came from a fit of temper of Walburga's upon Sirius' running away to the Potter's.

That would cover Sirius, and Andromeda, maybe. Alphard was blasted off a bit later becaue Sirius was 17 when he got the money (not that it mattered - he wasn't living at home in any case). So you are saying the Black who married Septimus Weasley, Marius Black the squib and Phineas Nigelus' sister were also blasted off while Sirius was no longer living at home?

However, I will also say, that the Wizarding World in general does not seem to discuss family interconnections, perhaps because everyone IS related somehow. Or, Perhaps it just seems that way because the only appropriate connections to be made would have been by Sirius who avoids it.

We hear very little about the Weasleys too.

Back to your speculations about Charlus Potter: whoever he was, the one son he had (and any grandchildren) must have been dead by 1981 for Minerva to accept that the Dursleys were Harry's only relatives.

Date: 2012-06-27 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwyla.livejournal.com
True - but then a great many people on that tree died relatively young. The 'one son' could have been born in 1940 and may or may not have had any children. May not even have married. My main problem with Charlus as Harry's grandfather is that it doesn't fit what JKR said about James' parents dying at a relatively 'old age' from disease. IF she had them die in the war, then I would agree that they could be James' parents. And wouldn't that play havoc with Sirius' claim that everyone in his family was 'dark'. Harry would have been quite put out about that.

However, IF they were Harry's grandparents, then Harry had plenty of relatives. They just might not have been people wanted Harry to live among (Malfoys?). But, then the Weasleys, the Longbottoms and the Crouches would also have been considered relatives.

I just cannot see James and Sirius as not having any idea they were related if they were that closely so - having a grandparent who were siblings. Add another layer or two of cousins 4th? 5th? and I can see it easier. Personally, I think Sirius just never mentioned Charlus because then he would either have to tell Harry that Harry had 'dark' relatives or admit that not all of his own (Sirius') relatives were actually 'dark'

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