PS Chapter Four: "The Keeper of the Keys"
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deathtocapslock* I remember how in the good old days before DH came out this chapter title spurred much interesting speculation regarding potential Hagrid-St. Peter parallels.
* I’m surprised Uncle Vernon managed to get a gun at such short notice, given all the checks you have to go through in England.
* “Couldn’t make us a cup o’ tea, could yeh?” says Hagrid, right after battering the door down. Maybe he’s trying to defuse the situation by doing something normal and sociable to set the Dursleys at ease. Then again, this is a wizard I’m talking about, so maybe it’s doing him too much credit to assume he cares about making muggles feel comfortable.
* “Yeh look a lot like yer dad, but yeh’ve got yer mum’s eyes. Probably time you gave them back to her.”
* Somebody once pointed out on this LJ that Harry’s only ever socialised to have a “might makes right” view of the world: at first he’s powerless and pushed around, then he goes to Hogwarts where he/the people who are friendly with him are powerful and get to push others around. Hagrid’s already started to reinforce the lesson, what with breaking into the house and making it plain how much stronger he is than Mr. Dursley.
* Hagrid’s use of illegal magic would have a similar effect, encouraging Harry to think of wizarding law as a joke which can be casually broken whenever one feels like it.
* Part of me suspects that Dumbledore knew this, and chose to send Hagrid for this very reason.
* Why didn’t Dumbles tell Hagrid that Harry didn’t know about Hogwarts? Don’t expect me to believe that a man who knows exactly which room Harry is being kept in doesn’t also know the current state of his magical education.
* “‘I know some things,’ [Harry] said. ‘I can, you know, do maths and stuff.’” Unlike most wizards, who as far as we can tell never bother with anything so prosaic as mathematics. I’m sorry, but if it doesn’t give you an opportunity to make inanimate objects tapdance around the room, it just isn’t worth bothering about.
* “I mean, they’re famous. You’re famous.” So, from abused nobody to pre-teen superstar. I’m sure that won’t turn his head at all. What was it Dumbledore said about wanting Harry to grow up as a normal boy?
* I wonder if there’s any difference between witchcraft and wizardry, or whether the school name’s just using hendiadys.
* “‘A Muggle,’ said Hagrid. ‘It’s what we call non-magic folk like them. An’ it’s your bad luck you grew up in a family o’ the biggest Muggles I ever laid eyes on.’” You see, Harry, when trying to whip up prejudice against a group of people, it helps to come up with a demeaning and insulting nickname, or “slur”, to call them by.
* One of the common ways in which authors try and cover for bad characters is by having anybody who criticises them be motivated by hatred, jealousy, or some other character flaw. Here, for example, Petunia’s speaking like an envious, closed-minded bigot, when as a matter of fact she’d have perfectly good reasons to dislike being around wizards.
* Oh, how I miss the days when we could hear sentences like “knew yer mum an’ dad, an’ nicer people yeh couldn’t find” without snorting in derision.
* Harry surviving the killing curse is quite a nice mystery, but the resolution is pretty bad. There’s no way Voldemort’s attempted Harrycide is the first occasion somebody’s sacrificed themselves for somebody else. What about any of the other wizards Voldemort murdered? Some of them seem to have been whole families killed at once, and do you mean to tell me that there wasn’t one instance of somebody telling the others to run while they held Voldemort off, or throwing themselves in front of an AK heading for somebody else?
* Not sure why Vernon’s acting so pointlessly obnoxious here. Sure he’s quite a rude man and he doesn’t like wizards, but he must realise the stupidity of mouthing off to someone who’s twice his size, has magical powers, and comes from a society where people like the Dursleys are somewhere between farm animals and dirt on the scale of moral importance.
* Harry thinks there must be some kind of mistake, because he isn’t talented enough to be a wizard. *misses the modest Harry of the earlier books*
* I pity the wizards of other countries if Hagrid is right and Hogwarts really is “the finest school of witchcraft and wizardry in the world”.
* Hagrid’s reaction to Vernon calling Dumbledore a “crackpot old fool” provides us with our first indication of the blatant Dumbledore-worship (Dumbolatry?) that goes on in Hogwarts.
* Instead of attacking Mr. Dursley, Hagrid attacks his son instead. And doesn’t even bother to undo the effects of his curse after he’s calmed down. Yeah, great choice of rôle model to introduce Harry to the wizarding world, Dumbles.
* I’m surprised Uncle Vernon managed to get a gun at such short notice, given all the checks you have to go through in England.
* “Couldn’t make us a cup o’ tea, could yeh?” says Hagrid, right after battering the door down. Maybe he’s trying to defuse the situation by doing something normal and sociable to set the Dursleys at ease. Then again, this is a wizard I’m talking about, so maybe it’s doing him too much credit to assume he cares about making muggles feel comfortable.
* “Yeh look a lot like yer dad, but yeh’ve got yer mum’s eyes. Probably time you gave them back to her.”
* Somebody once pointed out on this LJ that Harry’s only ever socialised to have a “might makes right” view of the world: at first he’s powerless and pushed around, then he goes to Hogwarts where he/the people who are friendly with him are powerful and get to push others around. Hagrid’s already started to reinforce the lesson, what with breaking into the house and making it plain how much stronger he is than Mr. Dursley.
* Hagrid’s use of illegal magic would have a similar effect, encouraging Harry to think of wizarding law as a joke which can be casually broken whenever one feels like it.
* Part of me suspects that Dumbledore knew this, and chose to send Hagrid for this very reason.
* Why didn’t Dumbles tell Hagrid that Harry didn’t know about Hogwarts? Don’t expect me to believe that a man who knows exactly which room Harry is being kept in doesn’t also know the current state of his magical education.
* “‘I know some things,’ [Harry] said. ‘I can, you know, do maths and stuff.’” Unlike most wizards, who as far as we can tell never bother with anything so prosaic as mathematics. I’m sorry, but if it doesn’t give you an opportunity to make inanimate objects tapdance around the room, it just isn’t worth bothering about.
* “I mean, they’re famous. You’re famous.” So, from abused nobody to pre-teen superstar. I’m sure that won’t turn his head at all. What was it Dumbledore said about wanting Harry to grow up as a normal boy?
* I wonder if there’s any difference between witchcraft and wizardry, or whether the school name’s just using hendiadys.
* “‘A Muggle,’ said Hagrid. ‘It’s what we call non-magic folk like them. An’ it’s your bad luck you grew up in a family o’ the biggest Muggles I ever laid eyes on.’” You see, Harry, when trying to whip up prejudice against a group of people, it helps to come up with a demeaning and insulting nickname, or “slur”, to call them by.
* One of the common ways in which authors try and cover for bad characters is by having anybody who criticises them be motivated by hatred, jealousy, or some other character flaw. Here, for example, Petunia’s speaking like an envious, closed-minded bigot, when as a matter of fact she’d have perfectly good reasons to dislike being around wizards.
* Oh, how I miss the days when we could hear sentences like “knew yer mum an’ dad, an’ nicer people yeh couldn’t find” without snorting in derision.
* Harry surviving the killing curse is quite a nice mystery, but the resolution is pretty bad. There’s no way Voldemort’s attempted Harrycide is the first occasion somebody’s sacrificed themselves for somebody else. What about any of the other wizards Voldemort murdered? Some of them seem to have been whole families killed at once, and do you mean to tell me that there wasn’t one instance of somebody telling the others to run while they held Voldemort off, or throwing themselves in front of an AK heading for somebody else?
* Not sure why Vernon’s acting so pointlessly obnoxious here. Sure he’s quite a rude man and he doesn’t like wizards, but he must realise the stupidity of mouthing off to someone who’s twice his size, has magical powers, and comes from a society where people like the Dursleys are somewhere between farm animals and dirt on the scale of moral importance.
* Harry thinks there must be some kind of mistake, because he isn’t talented enough to be a wizard. *misses the modest Harry of the earlier books*
* I pity the wizards of other countries if Hagrid is right and Hogwarts really is “the finest school of witchcraft and wizardry in the world”.
* Hagrid’s reaction to Vernon calling Dumbledore a “crackpot old fool” provides us with our first indication of the blatant Dumbledore-worship (Dumbolatry?) that goes on in Hogwarts.
* Instead of attacking Mr. Dursley, Hagrid attacks his son instead. And doesn’t even bother to undo the effects of his curse after he’s calmed down. Yeah, great choice of rôle model to introduce Harry to the wizarding world, Dumbles.
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Date: 2015-11-19 10:07 am (UTC)It had nothing to do with Harry and everything to do with Snape and the fact that Voldemort was human. He tried to keep his promise to Snape and not hurt Lily, but she refused to step aside and that made her died needlessly because he didn't want to kill her for Snape.
That was one of those things I actually kind of liked. Even though she tries to set it up like "Voldemort doesn't understand the power of love" what it really did was show that Voldemort was right about love being a weakness. It was like with the hand that killed wormtail when he hesitated. Voldemort let himself care about Snape, and putting someone else's needs/wants above his own, even though it was for a brief second, it what ended up destroying him.
Because you are right that it couldn't have anything to do with the love of Lily for Harry or this power would have stopped him long ago. She was just trying to put our focus on the Snape loved Lily and that is what changed everything, while brushing under the rug that Voldemort had to care about Snape for any of it to work to begin with.
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Date: 2015-11-19 11:12 am (UTC)He might also be doing so to have leverage over Sev, After all, Sev risked his life in asking she be left alive. Keeping her alive gives Voldy someone he can threaten if Sev ever becomes a problem. And just the fact that Sev asked for her life shows that he just might become one.
This also comes at a time when Sev had begun working at Hogwarts (the giving Lily the option - not Sev's asking). That has to raise a bit of worry, even if it was on Voldy's orders.
We know that when Voldy returns, he assumes Sev will no longer be loyal. I would think that indicates that Voldy was going to allow Lily to live in order to ensure Sev's loyalty. Once she's dead, Voldy assumes Sev will no longer be loyal.
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Date: 2015-11-19 12:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-22 08:55 am (UTC)This is repated in book 7, where Voldemort didn't really give Harry a choice just beforehand. He made some vague one about coming to him or he'd kill everyone else. Supposedly, that was the same thing.
Plus, Voldemort was never portrayed as having any kind of humanity. He was always a monster (or a monster in the making). He certainly had no humanity left when he gave Harry the choice in book 7, otherwise no such thing as Voldemort being "beyond help" according to Dumbledore (its true he's disgusting liar and manipulator though).
Still, it's completely impossible that such a "choice" hasn't ever been done. Furthermore, why would it not work for other spells and therefore more known? Just bulshit from JKR.
Lily's sacrifice or choice
Date: 2015-11-27 06:21 pm (UTC)