[identity profile] jollityfarm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] deathtocapslock
*Fug. It's not a misspelling, but I do reckon it was the wrong word in the context. My dictionary defines the word as "stuffy atmosphere in a room etc" which isn't quite right. "Fog" probably would have been better. Or, rather than writing "The misty fug...", one could simply have written "The mist..." and left the passage no worse off.

*Anyway, back to the actual story. Harry's room is a tip. Makes me feel better about mine. At least I put my apple cores in the bin.

*Officially, there's no such place as the Hall of Prophecy. Perhaps not such good governmental work there, either. Covering shit up never works, you guys. There's always enough people in tinfoil pointy hats to dredge up the truth. And yeah, we who have read the story know all about it, and the fact that what this newspaper article says is true. Well-hidden, guys.

*Harry is now "The Chosen One". Makes a change from being the ALL-CAPS "marked man" he was last book. Curiously, he'll get in a pissy mood about this, too. No pleasing some people.

*Old Scrimgeour is suspect, we assume, because he may or may not be someone not fond of Albus Dumbledore. He's so dead, book seven. So very dead. Might as well call him "Rufus Deadinbookseven".

*Regarding the "Protecting Your Home..." leaflet, I believe we are meant to assume that all these precautions are as dust and mist to the awesome power of Voldemort. After all, if they were so cool, how come the very powerful Amelia Bones got herself killed? I guess it's like those 1940s "Nuclear Attack" leaflets which advised people to hide under the table and cover their eyes (or whatever it was).

*Dumbledore has a deep voice. Nice to know, I guess. A contrast, I suppose, to Voldemort's "high, cold" voice.

*There must be some kind of spell to make caring for long hair simple. When I had waist-length hair, it was an absolute bugger to keep clean and tidy. And I didn't even have a beard. There must be some charm that stops him accidently going about with bits of egg in it. But I digress.

*Vernon is in a puce dressing gown. Probably got a puce face to match. Is this an attempt to rob a male character of dignity by putting him in pink, or does Rowling reckon it'd suit his colouring? I can't see someone as conventional as Vernon going for that, unless it went wrong through overwashing. And Petunia, who wipes everything down before bed, would surely never let that happen.

*"Shall we assume that you have invited me into your sitting room?" No, you big wizardy arse, I don't think we shall. Piss off and take the speccy kid with you. But, I forget, that would be "bullying".

*No, I wouldn't take some odd drink from someone I didn't know, either. All the safety things I've seen say not to do that in case it's been drugged by a mad rapist. I may have released the plot-bunnies of doom here. Also, giving booze to two kids you know to be underage? Very continental, perhaps, but not much in the way of professional.

*Sirius couldn't have been that fond of Remus to not leave him anything. Ah, the Sirius/Remus shippers - how they weep!

*Harry doesn't want no. 12, but he doesn't want Bellatrix to have it either. Of course, she technically should be in prison and not in posession of a decent house, but even so. Make yer bloody mind up, Harry. Oh, and he doesn't want Vernon to have it, I'm sure, even though that would probably result in much comedic terror as the portrait of Mrs. Black tries to eject the dirty Muggles by force. Ah, fun.

*Kreacher is annoying. Still, at least he gets some gainful employment.

*Oh, now you're all up with the "you never treated Harry as a son" stuff. Well done, Captain Lightning. Not anything to do with you not keeping an eye on the situation, though. Not your problem, I guess.
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Date: 2005-09-04 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphgalatea.livejournal.com
Mmm, I agree. Grawp Deadinbookseven. Dobby Deadinbookseven. Harry Deadinbookseven (what? It makes narrative sense!)

Assume the position, Dumbledore!

Date: 2005-09-05 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
I was curious about the use of "fug" as well, as the sense it evokes is not visual but olfactory. To quote my Webster's College Dictionary:

fug, n.: stale air, esp. the humid, warm, ill-smelling air of a crowded room, kitchen, etc.

This strongly suggests that The Chosen One is rather lax with the rituals of toothpaste, mouthwash and floss. :o But you are correct, it's not quite the right term for the mist his stanky breath leaves on the windowpane.

*"Shall we assume that you have invited me into your sitting room?" No, you big wizardy arse, I don't think we shall. Piss off and take the speccy kid with you. But, I forget, that would be "bullying".

Dumbledore totally lowers himself down to Vernon's base level in this chapter; he's a complete, unashamed and blatant arsehole. His condescending, supercilious "Shall I ASSUME???" tone is utterly despicable.

It'd be one thing if he were bullying Vernon and Petunia in private, and the mutual asininity (because nobody's in the right here, all three of them are jerks in this chapter) was kept among adults. But to behave that way in front of Harry...Dumbledore seems to be suggesting it's okay for Harry to treat those he considers "lesser" or "bad" the same way. He's teaching by example, exactly the same as Vernon teaches Dudders.

Another irritation in this chapter...so now Harry owns Kreacher? He has complete dominion over another living being? Ms. Rowling, WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF S.P.E.W.? Why did that subplot even EXIST?

My brain aches. It must be that large glass of Jack & Coke smacking me repeatedly upside the head. ;)

Re: Assume the position, Dumbledore!

Date: 2005-09-05 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anaid-rabbit.livejournal.com
so now Harry owns Kreacher? He has complete dominion over another living being?
Oh, but Kreacher deserves being enslaved (by someone who he hates, no less) because he`s evil and therefore deserves it. He`s a Slytherin House Elf. Or something... Remember, only the *good sort* of "lesser beings" will be treated in a fair way. The rest get what`s coming to them - just like the book`s designated human Bad Guys.

Re: Assume the position, Dumbledore!

Date: 2005-09-05 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
Yup. And Dobby's a Gryffindor/Hufflepuff elf. Happy to slather on bended knee, but only to select people.

But yeah, it punctures yet more holes in the 'Harry is PC and cares about injustice that doesn't directly affect him' (especially in comparison to his bitching about Slughorn's OMG TEH RACISM since doesn't big Horace know Harry's mommy was a half-blood? I mean, he flatters her endlessly, but still! Not enough for Harry.)

Hey man, smell my sock.

Date: 2005-09-05 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
Happy to slather on bended knee, but only to select people.

Ah, but that's because Dobby's a FREE ELF! Ever since Harry freed him from Lucius back in COS, Dobby has been able to get his submissive freak-on with whoever he chooses, unlike Kreacher.

A rather unfortunate cycle: from setting an elf free in the second book of the series to the S.P.E.W. mess (what. was. the. POINT?) in the fourth book to owning an elf in the penultimate book.

Re: Hey man, smell my sock.

Date: 2005-09-06 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
Someone needs to have a house elf named Stepin Fetchit.

Oh god. Now thee a bunny. I will write it, someday.

Date: 2005-09-06 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
*No, I wouldn't take some odd drink from someone I didn't know, either. All the safety things I've seen say not to do that in case it's been drugged by a mad rapist.

After having their child's tongue swollen and having a tail grow fromtheir child's ass, sure, they'll take a drink from Dumbledore- no probs!

*Sirius couldn't have been that fond of Remus to not leave him anything.

Ouch. and yet, that fit swith what we see of the character in the books. Liek a I said in a post about a book called rent a negro (http://www.rent-a-negro.com/), Sirius does not see Remus- nor do many of the others characters except for possibly Harry- as someone with his own issues, his own problems and needs. No, Remus is the frigging prop to show how liberal Sirius et al are. Lovely, isn't it?

Oh, now you're all up with the "you never treated Harry as a son" stuff.

Dumbledore = so full of shit it's not even funy. It is here where his character takes a big hit. Yeah take this unwanted child, and by the way I will threaten you to take him,becaus eyour sister was murdered and by the way, your own son? So what.



Date: 2005-09-06 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biting-moopie.livejournal.com
Sirius does not see Remus- nor do many of the others characters except for possibly Harry- as someone with his own issues, his own problems and needs. No, Remus is the frigging prop to show how liberal Sirius et al are. Lovely, isn't it?

I think you're right about this. It really surprised me that Sirius didn't leave Remus anything. Perhaps he felt guilty for not being there for most of Harry's life and thought a stack of cash would make up for it, but surely Sirius could have given Remus something.

Date: 2005-09-06 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
Ugh. I ned to write while sober!

Anyway, yes, it's weird how Remus is shown as being this caring person, but with difficulties,a nd yet no one thinks "Hey, I Know! Let get Remus some new clothes for his birthday! OR I know! Let's hire someone to make some Wolfsbane for him, since Snape will never, ever do it!"

It's like Remus' suffering is simply accepted as the way of the world. Only Harry seems to notice the guy is going in decline!

Date: 2005-09-07 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
I'd go one further and say that he seems very unimportant to Harry also. I mean, we get his observation of Lupin's shabbiness since he's our POV character and all, but in general, he doesn't seem to get much consideration (for instance, in HBP he's ticked that Lupin hasn't, I don't know, leapt to fill the hole Sirius has left as Daddy figure and written to him, but um...why doesn't he write to Lupin? Or why haven't they just corresponded before if they're close enough for Harry to expect him to?)

Date: 2005-09-07 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
Point taken.

in HBP he's ticked that Lupin hasn't, I don't know, leapt to fill the hole Sirius has left as Daddy figure and written to him, but um...why doesn't he write to Lupin?

I think the explanation given was that since Lupin was with the werewolves, then Harry could not write to him. Which makes no sense- Lupin is a grown man who was able to hide things when he was a teacher, and Harry could not drop a line every so often?

And the thing with Lupin, which has come back to huant him again and again, is that he can't assume responisibility. It's the trait of being a werewolf, however- it's a trait of being Remus Lupin.

Rent A Werewolf.

Date: 2005-09-06 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
Oh man, did you hit the nail on the head re: Remus as Token Dark Creature. Which is why I wasn't too surprised that Sirius left jack shit to Remus in his will.

Re: Rent A Werewolf.

Date: 2005-09-06 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
I know it's harsh, but true! That's how Remus' 'friendship' with people comes across as- the token noble savage!

Date: 2005-09-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biting-moopie.livejournal.com
Oh, now you're all up with the "you never treated Harry as a son" stuff.

That really made me mad. He leaves Harry on their doorstep with only a letter to explain the situation. Despite being aware of the way they treated hiim, he never made time in his busy schedule to tell the Dursleys to stop with child abuse. And the reader is supposed to say, "Oh jolly good Albus, well done." Give me a break.

Date: 2005-09-07 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siadea.livejournal.com
Offtopic, but I think I giggled for several minutes straight at your icon...

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