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More chapters, more chance to bitch about everything. Yay, an' stuff.

*This was one of the chapter titles, if I remember correctly, given out prior to the release of the book as a "taster". I distinctly remember certain amongst us hoping that Draco wouldn't be forced to take a detour into the jaws of some escaped beast or something.

*I notice again that Harry eats "triple helpings" of whatever Mrs. Weasley bakes. This being the kind of universe it is, she probably makes stuff with a lot of carbohydrate in it. Naturally, Harry remains as skinny as a rail. Obviously, Dudley was unfortunate with his genetics and puts on weight if he so much as looks a a Penguin bar :(

*I still can't help thinking that the description of Remus makes it sound as though he's playing up the "woeful" angle. Aside from the pitifully torn robes, there's emphasis on his greying hair. As I've said before, hair going grey is down to genetics and not stress. Some people find their first grey hairs very young indeed. Being in your mid-late thirties and having greying hair is nothing out of the ordinary at all.

*Florean Fortescue, as well as having a great name, was also a good man and gave out free ice cream to his favourite celebrity customer. For this and possibly other reasons, he has been "dragged off". One wonders what the Death Eaters might have done to him when they just killed Karkaroff. Now, I don't mean to malign the dead, but why didn't Karkaroff leave the country? Maybe he and Slughorn could have sneaked off in a Muggle boat disguised as boxes of Jaffa Cakes. No, I am not getting surreal shipping ideas! Really! Besides, it's too late for that now :(

*I notice that Bill is "being plied with wine" by Fleur. Surely she doesn't have to get him trollied to shag her?

*Maybe Ollivander left the country. I shouldn't imagine so, he's probably gone to the Death Eaters. But he can be my one last hope for someone with some damn sense until book seven comes out. I mean to say, under those conditions, if I knew transfiguration and thought I was in any sort of danger, I'd do everything I could to get out of the way of it, possibly pretending to be a cat in the process.

*Harry is captain! This means he gets a shiny badge, use of the Prefect's bathroom and we get acres of dull Quidditch coverage. Woo.

*Ooh, it's all very tense around the Weasley household, with arguments flaring up left, right and centre. It's nice to know that in topsy-turvy times of conflicts, some things remain constant :)

*Poor Tom-the-Landlord, with his empty pub.

*A note about the seedy street merchant: he's trying to sell stuff. He'd call Ginny "pretty" if she had a face like Hagrid's bell-end. He'd probably call Hagrid's bell-end pretty if he thought it'd help him sell stuff. That's what these people do.

*Draco: he's got style. You can say what you like about his looks, but damn, he knows how to dress. "Handsome" robes indeed! I bet his mum's got style like that too. I bet she has designer stuff. But I digress.

*Rowling makes sure to assure us that Narcissa's face is "arrogant". Oh, and she looks like her sister. This is how we know they're both evil. I note that Lily apparently looks nothing like Petunia, clearly proving which one is the "good" one. I bet Andromeda looks nothing like Bellatrix or Narcissa, just so we know she's not like them.

*Narcissa knows comebacks! *fangirls*

*And after some more stuff, we come to Fred and George's shop. I maintain that if any of the "bad" characters came up with half the stuff they do, fandom would be shaking its head and tut-tutting about what beastly folk they are. Edible dark marks? U-No-Poo? Come on, if Draco came up with this stuff, there'd be three hundred comment long threads at Fandom Wank arguing over whether this was beastly or perfectly understandable. But, because it's Fred and George, it's at once comedy gold?

*It's nice to know that Fred and George's year-long experiments with self-harm have yielded positive results. Skiving Snackboxes still really creep me out. Still, any bulimics in the magical community won't have to bother with fingers down the throat. But Fred and George's teeth must be shot to shit. Maybe they had all that fixed.

*What is the point of the Daydream Charms? I mean, can't these people have daydreams on their own? Or is it more of a hallucination charm? I'm genuinely perplexed as to the point. I daresay the idea that they'll be used as tranquilisers will have to come up, since really, what the hell else are they?

*I'd be interested to see, actually, if the practise of F&G testing products on themselves has any long-term consequences. Probably not, but worth keeping half an eye open, I guess.

*You know, I'd have thought that Muggle stuff would be more interesting to magical kids than boring old regular magic. But even kids raised in magic appear astonished by it. It's a funny old world.

*Harry can teach anyone Shield Charms! He is the bestest teacher evar! For crying out loud.

*It makes sense that Fred and George would be expanding into weaponry. They were generally damaging stuff anyway.

*Love potions. Woo-hoo. I guess it helps with plot points later in the book, but it's so damn stupid. Also, not really keen on the way the products supposedly aimed at women are all love potions and pink stuff, whereas boys get to look at things that go bang and produce smoke.

*Harry likes to keep a close eye on Draco. Mmm-hmm.

*Why do Hermione and Ron have to tag along when Harry wants to stalk Draco? Harry can do it on his own later in the book. Well, apart from when he ropes Dobby and Kreacher into it.

*I quite like the way Hermione failed in her mission here. I find her much more likeable in this book. It's as if Rowling had been reading the_snarkery and worried that Hermione was getting away with too much. Although that is probably not the case. But *waves* anyway.

Triple Helpings

Date: 2005-09-26 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadefell.livejournal.com
Harry and Ron both seem to gorge themselves at every sitting.

Now, I know that when my brothers (who are both considerably taller than me) where going through growth spurts they'd eat their own weight in pasta. But it wasn't every meal for 6 years, you know?

Re: Triple Helpings

Date: 2005-09-26 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
Love how it's treated as manly, healthy appetites when it's Harry and Ron, whereas Crabbe and Goyle are described as 'greedy' when it's them having the thirds in CoS. Nothing like consistency!

Re: Triple Helpings

Date: 2005-09-26 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadefell.livejournal.com
She even uses the same words, like "stuffing" and "cramming" and "gulping," but as you say, when it's R&H it's normal and healthy and when it's C&G they are just greedy pigs.

Re: Triple Helpings

Date: 2005-09-26 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
But Crabbe and Goyle are FAT! Don't you see the difference?

Date: 2005-09-26 05:28 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Me and my boyfriend.)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I distinctly remember certain amongst us hoping that Draco wouldn't be forced to take a detour into the jaws of some escaped beast or something.

Yup, I worried Draco was going to try to "get" Harry and Hermione would put him in a box postmarked for Siberia.

I notice again that Harry eats "triple helpings" of whatever Mrs. Weasley bakes. This being the kind of universe it is, she probably makes stuff with a lot of carbohydrate in it. Naturally, Harry remains as skinny as a rail.

Well, that's because weight-gain is a function of morality. As a good person Harry can have a healthy appetite, but will never overeat. Fat on the outside=evil on the inside.

As I've said before, hair going grey is down to genetics and not stress.

Yup. If I thought it would work I'd be glad to not spend the money on dye I've been spending since my 20s. It's just, unfairly, that on men it looks distinguished. (My dad started growing grey at 12, my brother is completely so.)

Florean Fortescue, as well as having a great name, was also a good man and gave out free ice cream to his favourite celebrity customer. For this and possibly other reasons, he has been "dragged off".

They're probably forcing him to make them Evil Matterhorn Sundaes and smush-ins.

I notice that Bill is "being plied with wine" by Fleur. Surely she doesn't have to get him trollied to shag her?

Harry is one of those gay men who sees women as evil succubi--of course a healthy boy like Bill must be gotten drunk to shag her! In his right mind he'd prefer a manly game of Quidditch!

Still, any bulimics in the magical community won't have to bother with fingers down the throat.

Yes, funny how this is one of those rare times when fandom doesn't get all super serious about Issues and talk about how these things could be abused. In fact, when they are abused in canon it's still a good thing!

What is the point of the Daydream Charms? I mean, can't these people have daydreams on their own?

Wizards are just that unimaginative, I guess. Only I wonder what happens if a teacher calls on you in the middle of one. Wouldn't you be safer doing it on your own? Plus, do you get stuck with only daydreams Fred and George would come up with? So you're pulling out the chair before Filch sits down for 20 minutes?

You know, I'd have thought that Muggle stuff would be more interesting to magical kids than boring old regular magic.

Muggle stuff is inherently boring and stupid, as are Muggles. We can't stress this enough. Everybody wants to be a wizard.

It makes sense that Fred and George would be expanding into weaponry. They were generally damaging stuff anyway.

Just remember it's not their fault if it gets into the wrong hands and they get all the credit if a good guy uses it.

Also, not really keen on the way the products supposedly aimed at women are all love potions and pink stuff, whereas boys get to look at things that go bang and produce smoke.

Yeah, you notice? In fact, there are very few positive female relationships that don't revolve around love potions and stuff.
Why do Hermione and Ron have to tag along when Harry wants to stalk Draco? Harry can do it on his own later in the book.

I guess Harry mistakes his own erotic excitement for a thrilling adventure that Ron and Hermione would naturally want to be in with him. He doesn't know why they don't feel the thrill of it.

Date: 2005-09-26 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
Plus, do you get stuck with only daydreams Fred and George would come up with? So you're pulling out the chair before Filch sits down for 20 minutes?

*diez*

Date: 2005-09-27 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
I guess Harry mistakes his own erotic excitement for a thrilling adventure that Ron and Hermione would naturally want to be in with him. He doesn't know why they don't feel the thrill of it.

*dies laughing*

Someone has to write this in some form. They do!
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Date: 2005-09-26 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadefell.livejournal.com
bwa ha ha ha ha!

Maybe she should learn Harry/Snape's muffliato spell?

Spill the Wine, Take that Girl

Date: 2005-09-27 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
I was going to suggest that Fleur & Bill could hardly be in a less erotic situation than staying at the Burrow and putting up with family bullshit, so it makes sense to at least have a glass or three of Bordeaux together to alleviate the tedium...

...But then it occurred to me that loud, drunken sex in the wee hours is the most perfect revenge they could enact upon Mollywobbles and Ginny Sue! Vive la France! :D

Re: Spill the Wine, Take that Girl

Date: 2005-09-27 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
Ha, I can see it now. Ginny makes loud vomiting noises to cover the noise and make her feelings felt, then complains about Fleur treating her like a child, and her siblings getting involved in her love life.

Date: 2005-09-26 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
I still can't help thinking that the description of Remus makes it sound as though he's playing up the "woeful" angle.

Why doesn't he just fix his torn robes? Or is that a job for Molly or someone? (Or maybe they're patched. I really don't pay attention to Remus.)
Perhaps he thinks if he looks rough enough, someone will give him some money. Sorry, boyo, that only works for PS!Harry and his terribly tragic oversized shirts and taped glasses. (Much like how I kind of sniggered when people theorised Sirius would leave anything to Remus. Um, have you guys not gotten the key to the books yet? It's All About Harry. No-one could possibly have a relationship in which they preferred/placed more importance on anyone above him. It's probably in the WW wedding vows.)

Some people find their first grey hairs very young indeed.

I found my first grey hair at 19 (same day OotP came out, actually. Maybe that's why I hate it so much! ;) Clearly I've Suffered Like No Other.

Bill is "being plied with wine" by Fleur. Surely she doesn't have to get him trollied to shag her?

Perhaps she's keen to nurture him (she was feeding Harry earlier, yeah? And later nurses Bill.) It's a woman's job, you know!
That, or because Hermione and Ginny don't like her, she's clearly one of Those Types of girls. Feminine, airheaded, and has to throw herself at her man, even if she is a Veela.

Harry is captain! This means he gets a shiny badge, use of the Prefect's bathroom and we get acres of dull Quidditch coverage. Woo.

What the hell was up with Ron's 'Yay, you get to boss me as Captain' anyway? His jealousy issues really come and go, don't they? In GoF he was Teh Evil Betrayer (I liked him best then, unsurprisingly), in OotP he was a sad old man, now he's a horndog but back on the Harry fan train.
But yeah, thankfully, all the Trio are equal again, so we don't have to deal with the horror of someone having something Harry doesn't.

I note that Lily apparently looks nothing like Petunia, clearly proving which one is the "good" one.

Genetics has no place in Rowling's head. Much like maths, characterisation, stylistics and communicating with fans.

Narcissa knows comebacks! *fangirls*

Harry, however, does not. 'Loser'? OMG, what a super-burn, I bet the wife of a DE has never heard something so terrible in all her life!

I maintain that if any of the "bad" characters came up with half the stuff they do, fandom would be shaking its head and tut-tutting about what beastly folk they are. Edible dark marks?

Isn't that like an edible swastika? Eek.
But yeah, especially since the Twins are both not helping the Order (at least not directly, or with any intentions to - the Aurors have bought their stuff, but it's not like they arranged that out of altruism) - where's Harry's Righteous Indignation that someone somewhere in the world might not want to play the warrior role 24/7? And encouraging people not to worry about Voldie. Then their guard is down, and boom, DE!Twins strike. (I wish...)

Come on, if Draco came up with this stuff, there'd be three hundred comment long threads at Fandom Wank arguing over whether this was beastly or perfectly understandable.

As well as comments on his childish sense of humour, unlike Ginny's/Harry's/Twins's hilarious 'spit, poo and vomit' jokes.

But Fred and George's teeth must be shot to shit. Maybe they had all that fixed.

Only meanies like Severus have bad teeth. Fred and George's inner goodness overpowers petty things like biology.

You know, I'd have thought that Muggle stuff would be more interesting to magical kids than boring old regular magic.

Interestingly one of the twins uses the wording 'freaks' to describe people who like Muggle stuff, which is the Dursleys tag word...

Harry can teach anyone Shield Charms! He is the bestest teacher evar! For crying out loud.

I know! Christ, stop with the exposition of how fabulous Harry and Ginny are, already. (And it's only just began... *shudders*)

Date: 2005-09-26 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
Also, not really keen on the way the products supposedly aimed at women are all love potions and pink stuff, whereas boys get to look at things that go bang and produce smoke.

Love how Hermione and Ginny are momentarily 'wary' of all the pink - ew, girls! Oh, and the 'swooning' woman on the cover of the box. *rolls eyes*

Why do Hermione and Ron have to tag along when Harry wants to stalk Draco?

What if they got in a fight? Harry needs to be able to outnumber his opponent! It's in the Gryffindor Rules of Fair Fighting, or something.

I find her much more likeable in this book.

Yeah, me too.

pink - ew, girls!

Date: 2005-09-26 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganinhiding.livejournal.com
Notice how Ginny picks a purple pygmy puff instead of an icky pink one like Dolores Umbridge would have? Although to be fair Fleur is much worse than Umbridge. Right Ginny?

Date: 2005-09-26 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
I find her much more likeable in this book.

Yeah, me too.


'Coz she's not in it as much.

Date: 2025-08-08 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kahran042
Isn't that like an edible swastika? Eek.

No. Even if the Death Eaters were Nazis, which they aren't, they would be more like edible hakenkreuzes.

Date: 2005-09-26 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilith-morgana.livejournal.com
Obviously, Dudley was unfortunate with his genetics and puts on weight if he so much as looks a a Penguin bar :(

Obviously Dudley is not a Real Man. Much like Slughorn with all his feminine attributes, Dudley is doomed to be overweight and also a sissy. Fat people can sometimes be nice but they have no character. And a Real Man must have lots of character. And muscles. In book 7 we will learn how Quidditch has toned Harry's young body into perfection, btw. I am sure of this. Draco, being a Slytherin like the skinny and unmanly Snape will be described as lanky.

I still can't help thinking that the description of Remus makes it sound as though he's playing up the "woeful" angle.

For the love of God, Remus - buy new clothes! Or better yet, since you're apparently a great wizard - USE A SPELL TO REPAIR AND CLEAN! Get a haircut and new clothes and stop pitying yourself. You're not teh tragic outcast and you have never been. You belonged to the popular Gryffindor gang at Hogwarts. All the students seem to adore you. In general, Remus, people like you which is more than many others in the sad WW can say about themselves. As of late you also have a brand new girlfriend. You get laid, which seems to be another rarity in the world you live in. I'm sure Dumbledore, Severus and Minerva, for example, would kill to be in your shoes. So, WOULD IT KILL YOU TO BUY A NEW SET OF CLOTHES, GET OVER YOURSELF AND SHUT THE FUCK UP?!

(Ah, nothing like a spot of irrational Remus!hate in the evening.)

Date: 2005-09-26 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooselord.livejournal.com
Yeah! You take the words right out of my quill.

Date: 2005-09-26 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganinhiding.livejournal.com
What is the point of Daydream charms?
Perhaps they're the WW version of LSD. Fred and George as arms dealers actually makes a lot of sense; there seemed to be too many joke shops around for them to make a really big profit. I can actually see the Twins classifying love potions as "girl stuff" but further into the book who are associated with the use of love potions are female and the victims are male. Besides providing a further example of Rowling's feminism (sarcasm)it doesn't make sense why a few male students why try out a love potions to score with the hot chick who otherwise wouldn't even speak to them.
Aside from the pitifully torn robes. Presumably every witch and wizard has had at least five years of transfigurations and charms but there's nothing anyone can do to make their clothes look better. Well that would cut into Madame Malkin's profits and if she could use a wand for alterations instead of needles Harry would have needed some other excuse to stalk Draco.

Date: 2005-09-27 02:25 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Hmmmm..)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I can actually see the Twins classifying love potions as "girl stuff" but further into the book who are associated with the use of love potions are female and the victims are male. Besides providing a further example of Rowling's feminism (sarcasm)it doesn't make sense why a few male students why try out a love potions to score with the hot chick who otherwise wouldn't even speak to them.

Yes, let's think about that for a moment, shall we? It's that weird sort-of-child-like attitude where of course girls are all silly about guys and get crushes on them but guys are too dim to notice. When really, for goodness sake, wouldn't guys be paying money for the wizarding version of--what's it called...Spanish Fly?...instead? Not to make someone fall in love with you but to make them fall in lust with you for short periods of time. Probably if the love potions wear off they'd work just as well. Yet as of yet we've never seen it used. The only time we see a guy acting at all that way it's Cormac McClaggen when Hermione invites him to the Xmas party and he's all over her under the mistletoe. He's angry when Hermione leaves, but there's no hint this could be much danger to her. Malfoy and Nott smirk at the idea of love potions being powerful.

Date: 2005-09-27 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
There's also an interesting bit in this chapter where how strong the love potion works depends on the attractiveness of the girl (obviously Ginny wouldn't need any at all ;) so they're apparently specifically designed with women as their target audience in mind (in order to trap their men, of course!) - I wonder what would happen if a boy tried it?... Naturally the attractiveness of the male is not an issue, whereas whether the women dates is dependent of how pretty she is.
So basically men wouldn't need them because the girls in the WW have lower standards, or something. Really, though, who'd get turned down? Crabbe and Goyle for comedy value can't get dates, but there's always someone even uglier/more annoying than Slytherin guys - like Slytherin girls.

Date: 2005-09-29 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com
The men in WW don't want ssilly girls. They just want each other!

Date: 2005-09-27 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganinhiding.livejournal.com
The time period is very convenient for one night stands; when it wears of the recipient will presumably go away not trouble the purchaser with any icky relationship issues and that scene was interestingly played for laughs which makes me wonder if he'll one day be the token evil Gryffindor.

Date: 2005-09-27 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganinhiding.livejournal.com
I meant to say I wonder if Cormac will be the token evil Gryffindor; Scrimgeour is just self-serving and lacking in the necessary qualities to be Dumbledore's lacke...uh, man.

Date: 2005-09-29 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com
When really, for goodness sake, wouldn't guys be paying money for the wizarding version of--what's it called...Spanish Fly?...instead?

In fact, Merpose might be less attractive than Tom Riddle, but I find it kind of silly that she would have needed a love potion to make him, well shag her. I mean is Tom Riddle Sr really such a gentleman that he needs to be deeply in love with a woman to even think about about doing that? Here's a upperclass young man who has the head of a lower class young girl in the vicinity completely turned, and it doesn't even occur to him to take advantage of her? My, he must really be the opposite of his son, mustn't he?
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
*I notice that Bill is "being plied with wine" by Fleur. Surely she doesn't have to get him trollied to shag her?

It's fair to note that in Anglo-American culture wine is treated the same as other alcoholic beverages – as an intoxicant – whereas in France and other European countries, wine is treated more as a foodstuff, a complement to a meal.

I wonder how the French translation of HPB handles the interactions between Fleur and the Weasleys; mutual historical & cultural emnity between the English and the French is a stereotype used rather too obviously here. French readers can't really be getting with Rowling's derogatory clichés, can they? Are there any [livejournal.com profile] deathtocapslockers from France who can give us feedback on this?

*What is the point of the Daydream Charms? I mean, can't these people have daydreams on their own? Or is it more of a hallucination charm? I'm genuinely perplexed as to the point.

Well, it's like a drug, innit? For 30 minutes you can have all the effects of a few wicked bong hits without the stink of marijuana on your person or a serious case of the munchies. (Note the side effects – the vacant expressions and minor droolings – are exactly the same in both cases!) Love potions could be the Wizarding equivalent of roofies (we'll get to that later, when Romilda Vane enters the picture), and let us not mention the COCAINE Felix Felicis.

HPB is chock full of drug innuendo; I'm astounded and impressed! that Rowling's getting away with it, in that "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is just a picture John Lennon's son drew" sort of way.

From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
Love potions could be the Wizarding equivalent of roofies

Aw. How JKR has moved on from simply having her heroes drug folk unconscious. (I always found CoS and the sleeping spell in Crabbe and Goyle's food creepily reminiscent of date-rape drugs, what with them taking their bodies, so to speak; and giving their victims all the blame in the situation: They should have known better than to accept food from strangers. Bet they were wearing short skirts, too! ;)
From: [identity profile] mmmarcusz.livejournal.com
They also do Cheering Charms. Which is like the time that we refined cocaine for Chemistry.

Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-27 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q-spade.livejournal.com
While I'm in a Lennonesque frame of mind...

*I quite like the way Hermione failed in her mission here.

What's so great about the scenes at Madam Malkin's and Borgin & Burkes is that, after Hermione's extreme powertripping in OOTP, the wool is suddenly pulled from her eyes and she realizes how insignificant she really is in the Wizarding World at large. As a muggleborn, she's even less than a second-class citizen; without family & blood connections no-one gives a shit about her.

Instinctively she's always known this – hence her efforts to both insinuate herself with the Weasleys and act as the intellectual power behind Harry's throne – but right here is the point where she has to consciously face that outside of Hogwarts, she's NOTHING. I'm not at all surprised that she behaves so erratically after this point in the narrative; what she's experienced in this chapter is a massive reality check, and a devastating blow to her ego.

Even the Punching Telescope incident in the last chapter (which carries on into this one) shows Hermione at a humiliating disadvantage. Here is magic that The Brightest Witch of Her Age/co-Creatrix of Dumbledore's Army CANNOT defend herself against – and it's not even Dark Arts or anything heavy, it's one of the Twins' gag items! Oooh, BURN!

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-27 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pacoman.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how the Holy Harmonia rewrite dealt with those scenes?

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-27 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
I can't describe how satisfying this scene was--just imagining Borgin giving her the, "and you are...?" treatment when she flounced into his shop expecting to be treated like the Brightest Witch of Her Age and all that. I could NOT stop laughing. She just sort of deflated for the rest of the book like a bad souffle. It was marvellous. Especially when coupled with Narcissa's brilliant nose-to-nose with Harry.

Are we sure JKR actually wrote this book all by herself?

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-27 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrymelody.livejournal.com
I got suspicious in this chapter myself. Especially with Draco's "handsome" robes. Huh? JKR, are you feeling okay? Not hideously tacky ugly robes that make him look a prat and accentuate how horribly ugly he is?
Then Narcissa verbally bitch-slaps Harry, without the inevitable 'She looked stupid and gawped, stunned by Harry's incredible wit' and Hermione actually fails at something... Woah.

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-27 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Boo.)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
A true sign that evil is getting the upper hand in this book. Draco's going to get the jump on Harry later too!

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-29 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com
Are we sure JKR actually wrote this book all by herself?

Heh. You know, some of the things in this book blew me away to such an extent, that I had to interrupt (http://www.livejournal.com/users/go_back_chief/33161.html?mode=reply) my reading (http://www.livejournal.com/users/go_back_chief/33341.html) with mindless <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/go_back_chief/33672.html</a>squeeing</a>. :D

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-29 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com
That was supposed to be squeeing (http://www.livejournal.com/users/go_back_chief/33672.html).

Re: Comment 2: Instant Karma's Gonna Get You

Date: 2005-09-29 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-back-chief.livejournal.com
I'm not at all surprised that she behaves so erratically after this point in the narrative; what she's experienced in this chapter is a massive reality check, and a devastating blow to her ego.

A very interesting take on it. It makes sense.

Date: 2009-01-07 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmmarcusz.livejournal.com
*I notice that Bill is "being plied with wine" by Fleur. Surely she doesn't have to get him trollied to shag her?

Rape and semi-rape is just the witch way. After all, with the boys all admiring how handsome the other boys are, they have to get in some way.

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